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Offline Raider179

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« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2006, 01:00:29 PM »
Game lost its MMOG feel. I cancelled today. See you guys around.

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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2006, 01:06:01 PM »
Ive quit 5 or 6 times over the years...none for that reason. Perhaps next time I quit it will be because of a MMOG feeling, or lack thereof.

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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2006, 01:17:08 PM »
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Stephen, its amazing how many cheerleaders turn up when you say goodbye. Isnt it? :rofl ;)


Ahhh... another productive post.
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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2006, 01:22:07 PM »
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Someone is confused.... this is a game.... otherwise when you go down in flames your out of the game until reset..... you crash land you'd be out for recovery and possibly stateside (out of the war)..... Your captured, you can watch the bombers fly over your camp.

Of course since your in a game.. you can HO or take very chancy actions.... because if you crash... you laugh, cry, whine, hit yourself on the head or whatever and get a new plane ... :aok


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I think "War Game" might clear it up for a few around here.  Naturally, the folks who want nothing but pointless dogfights (strategically speaking) never found thier way to the DA.  But hey, the horde warriors never found purpose in attacking area's that had a red darbar.  Nobody gets off free, if there were a reason FOR everyone to get a pat on the back, perhaps HTC wouldn't have changed the arena setup in the first place.
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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2006, 01:36:04 PM »
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fencer... not to put too fine a point on it but if you are a p51/p47 squad then you are forced to fly a certain way.  the forced part is self induced but no less restrictive.

Nobody in our squad has ever been forced to fly a certain way.  You can't force anything on our squad, as flexibility is built in to our way of doing things.  We are basically a p51/p47 squad... but check the records, we fly lots of platforms.

You also have a huge advantage over 90% of the rest of the planeset and are pretty much immune to them if you fly "smart"... there is the rub...your planes don't don't really participate in furballs.. they lessen em.

Flying smart and participating in furballs is easy... the 4th participates in furballs.  Next?

your self impossed restrictions are why you have to fly in such a narrow band.

The above is based fully on ignorance of the 4th's way of doing things.

 I know because I restrict myself (for the most part) to early war planes.  

Good, stay in the EW... that's what it's there for.

The fact that I don't have to deal with you guys anymore due to the arena changes does not break my heart in the least since running into you before was never any fun anyway for early war or slow planes.

We're in mutual agreement, your contribution to the game [or boards for that matter] isn't much fun either.

That is all fine untill a guy who flys nothing but the fastest planes in the game comes on and says that he knows something of furballs and furballers and that we are just newbies that basicaly... haven't discovered the late war planes and the joy of running away.

It's good to know you think your way is the right way... very unique argument.

all would be fine if he just said that his narrow idea of what should be flown was now not as fun.

You missed the point... again.

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« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2006, 09:24:51 AM »
gatt.. the arena changes have not restricted you from flying any way or type of aircraft.... what you are angry about is that it has given others the choice to not do it with you.

tumor..  that is all well and good and if you are such a diverse and adaptable group then why is your  guy singing the blues and blaming the furballers? or... as he says.. fighter on fighter.

He says it is breaking up cohesion... how so?   does he mean it no longer forces the "cohesion" of everyone forced into one arena?  He certainly doesn't mean that he can't fly with his squadies?

As for the 4th... nope.. don't know anything about em.  I may have fought and killed a bunch but it was uremarkable or...more likely... I never look to see what squad a guy is in anyway... I am like 3 to one on kills of Pee 51's or 47's but I rarely rememeber a 51 fight... they are hardly ever that fun for early war planes as I have said.  

The guy wants to fly late war planes and milkrun bases...  I don't enjoy either...

Soooo... I am glad for the changes and if he can't stay unless everyone is forced into one arena to play with him his way then... I won't miss him.

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« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2006, 11:18:47 AM »
Sorry to see you go too raider (fatsacks).  Likewise, let everyone know where you end up.
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« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2006, 11:57:15 AM »
Originally posted by lazs2
gatt.. the arena changes have not restricted you from flying any way or type of aircraft.... what you are angry about is that it has given others the choice to not do it with you.

But it does prevent your squad from flying with you

tumor..  that is all well and good and if you are such a diverse and adaptable group then why is your  guy singing the blues and blaming the furballers? or... as he says.. fighter on fighter.

He says it is breaking up cohesion... how so?   does he mean it no longer forces the "cohesion" of everyone forced into one arena?  He certainly doesn't mean that he can't fly with his squadies?


Well, here again, they are a P51, P47 squad... the dynamic arena setup makes it nearly impossible to fly as a squadron unless one of the arenas is empty... then what fun is that?

As for the 4th... nope.. don't know anything about em.  I may have fought and killed a bunch but it was uremarkable or...more likely... I never look to see what squad a guy is in anyway... I am like 3 to one on kills of Pee 51's or 47's but I rarely rememeber a 51 fight... they are hardly ever that fun for early war planes as I have said.  

I keep expecting you to break into a chorus of Mac Davis' "Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble" any second

The guy wants to fly late war planes and milkrun bases...  I don't enjoy either...

Nothing wrong with late-war planes.... any run can be a milkrun when people choose to fly 90 seconds to find a furball and play "Air Quake" instead of defend.  But I guess you have to keep using that buzzword to try to give your views credibility while attempting to belittle others.

Soooo... I am glad for the changes and if he can't stay unless everyone is forced into one arena to play with him his way then... I won't miss him.
 


Glad you are happy with the changes, a 7 year AH customer isnt... but yet you give him the ol' "Dont let the doorknob hit ya......." farewell.  For a lot of us, the game is about flying WITH our friends / squad members, which game we choose to play is secondary.  I have been avoiding posting again on this subject but when a guy says "I have been here 7 years and I am done"  Then gets called "Newb" "Milkrunner" "doomsdayer"  saying he "NEEDS a 50 LA7 mission to take a base" or the famous "Whorde" Fact is Squads engage in teamwork if we choose to take a base, we do it as a team, if we go on a fighter sweep, it is as a team.

WHY have a squad that is split by arena boundaries or have part of the squad fly for a different country?  It defeats the purpose.  You guys can keep up the "Whorde" "Milkrunner" "Toolshedder" or whatever buzzword you choose, fact is Teamwork = Success... try it sometime!
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« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2006, 02:17:35 PM »
Everyone has the impression that the arana changes were brought about to improve game play.  EWA has a max of 350 players allowed, same for MWA, but the LWA where most of the public choses to play has very limited number for max allowed players ,   why is that?   Isn't HTC concered with improving game play in either of the EWA or MWA by insuring that the number of players does not exceed a certain number?  

The changes to the arena are not to balance sides, the changes are to balances usage of the servers on which the game is played.

If you had 350 people all in the EWA, you'd see HTC split it up into several machines.  It's the servers people.  not the game play that HTC is interested is serving.   While their advertisement still carries the mention of MMOG as a draw,  I 'm pretty sure that they will be changing that.

Currently the EWA can't be considered an MMOG by any of todays gaming standards.  5 people on Knight, 7 on Rooks and 15 Bish is not an MMOG.

You can aruge with lazs2 until you are blue in the face, he just doesn't get it.  Its not furballing or toolsheding, It's the squad thing; and the new set up makes it hard for squads to link up for an evening of flying, no matter what type of flying they do.
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« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2006, 02:28:06 PM »
Lazs,
I canceled my account becouse during my wife-free euro evenings or saturdays I wasnt able to find a well populated arena and always fly the plane I wanted. I wasnt always able to find a big fight, a big raid to intercept, a field to defend from enemy missions. And above all my squad was not always able to gather and play togheter. All things I/we were able to do in the old chaotic MA. Thats why.

I've never ever, in 7 years, wanted or pushed other players to play the way I want(ed). The first time I felt someone was doing this to me and my squad then I quit.
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« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2006, 03:27:01 PM »
Sorry to see you go too gatt

I too am about to pay my last months subscription while the rest of the squad decides where we are going... most of the 32 of us have been here over 4 or 5 years and while we dont want to leave, it has become a must.
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« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2006, 04:12:12 PM »
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... the changes are to balances usage of the servers on which the game is played.
 


Wrong.

The arena capacity is about 1000, with multiple arenas on a server. It has to do with the gaming 'atmosphere'.
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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2006, 11:44:55 AM »
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Wrong.

The arena capacity is about 1000, with multiple arenas on a server. It has to do with the gaming 'atmosphere'.

PLease define "gaming atmosphere"  I really don't understand what that means.  The game is played by rules that are programmed into the game.

The arena changes have done nothing to balance game play.  Sides are still very uneven.  But there are fewer disconnects.
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« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2006, 12:32:11 PM »
HT has said it had nothing to do with balancing the arenas, he did it because, in his words, populations above 250-300 become disfunctional. HT has said that CH200, and the cesspool it had become, is a result of this disfunctionality.

People ***** about the arena split, but one thing I have noticed, and this was one of the stated goals of the split, is that CH200 is much less active, and when it is active it is much more respectful.

Maybe HT and Pyro know what they are doing?

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« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2006, 12:37:57 PM »
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is that CH200 is much less active, and when it is active it is much more respectful.


what arena you flying in?
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