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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2006, 12:11:24 AM »
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tumor..  that is all well and good and if you are such a diverse and adaptable group then why is your  guy singing the blues and blaming the furballers? or... as he says.. fighter on fighter.


I didn't notice any blues singing or blaming... Fencer & Pops were making some valid points without reading in to anything... unlike you.  You have been corrected, again.  Live with it.

He says it is breaking up cohesion... how so?   does he mean it no longer forces the "cohesion" of everyone forced into one arena?  He certainly doesn't mean that he can't fly with his squadies?

Perhaps he certainly does.  He was in fact having trouble getting in with the guys.  We've taken care of that by doing something other than beating a dead horse on the AH boards.

As for the 4th... nope.. don't know anything about em.  I may have fought and killed a bunch but it was uremarkable or...more likely... I never look to see what squad a guy is in anyway... I am like 3 to one on kills of Pee 51's or 47's but I rarely rememeber a 51 fight... they are hardly ever that fun for early war planes as I have said.

Well arent you just special

The guy wants to fly late war planes and milkrun bases...  I don't enjoy either...

Good thing you aren't King then eh?  Just a peasant like the rest of us.

Soooo... I am glad for the changes and if he can't stay unless everyone is forced into one arena to play with him his way then... I won't miss him.

Fortunately it will probably be another 4yrs before I bother to respond to your drivel.  UNfortunately, I occasionally find myself sucked into participating with a troll.  Go find a bridge.[/B]
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« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2006, 01:59:34 AM »
Wait a minute!  If AH is war......then....gasp!.......I've been dead since my first flight!




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« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2006, 04:31:07 AM »
what lazs said:
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And... we are having more fun now and meeting more people than we ever did.


Translated:

THis is brilliant, HTC has supplied me even more "n(o)obs" for me to kill and prove my l33tn355!!!!



HTC has killed this game for many, and im starting to wonder if the problem wasn't with the mentality of the majority in the old MA, but the very vocal "few" (Disclaimer: not the squad), that chelp and belittle everyone in here and in the MA, that had an opinion different to theirs.

Sad to see a vet leave for the reasons he's stating, very sad indeed.

Glad i left quietly and didnt give you "few" the satisfaction.

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« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2006, 08:23:41 AM »
argue it any way you want but there are 4 arenas with 12 sides to be on.... about 11 of those sides have plenty of room for a squad to play on as a group in numbers up to 32 or more.

What he is crying about is that eveyone isn't forced into one arena where his plane is in the very top couple of usefull planes.   He further limits himself to one chess piece and is unwilling to change.

mrnogame...  you don't even have the guts to tell us who you are... I doubt that you play.

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« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2006, 09:54:25 AM »
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HT has said it had nothing to do with balancing the arenas, he did it because, in his words, populations above 250-300 become disfunctional. HT has said that CH200, and the cesspool it had become, is a result of this disfunctionality.

People ***** about the arena split, but one thing I have noticed, and this was one of the stated goals of the split, is that CH200 is much less active, and when it is active it is much more respectful.

Maybe HT and Pyro know what they are doing?


Heck, I haven't been on ch 200 for ages and ages, I always believed it was a cesspool since it's inception and haven't monitored it.  I believe it would have been far less disruptive to have disabled it entirely than what has transpired.  It's more akin to hunting squirrle with a 12 gauge shotgun.  I also support the breakup of the arenas into early, mid, and late war planesets.

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« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2006, 09:56:14 AM »
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argue it any way you want but there are 4 arenas with 12 sides to be on.... about 11 of those sides have plenty of room for a squad to play on as a group in numbers up to 32 or more.

What he is crying about is that eveyone isn't forced into one arena where his plane is in the very top couple of usefull planes.   He further limits himself to one chess piece and is unwilling to change.

mrnogame...  you don't even have the guts to tell us who you are... I doubt that you play.

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First there are not 4 Arenas and 12 sides to chose from.  If you have a squad of 18, All 18 have to be in an arena just to communicate and discover where everyone is. Then you would have to log out of that first arena and back in to the arena that would allow for the 18.  Now if you are a toolsheder,  You only have one choice where there are the number to offer some kind of fun game play;  that's the LWA, not because it's easy, but because it generally offers the most challenging game play.

AH has only provided the tools to locate your squad  after loging in to an arena.

I originally became a paying customer because I wanted to play an MMOG.  With the main arena that is what AH offered.  With the new arena set up.  I don't see the game as an MMOG at this point.  

The only  way to balance sides if that is what AH's was attempting to do is, to automaticly balance sides everytime you attempt to enter a flight.
 
In other words,  Everyone would wait in a tower, there would only be one tower and at that point you chose your aircraft and select the fly button   you get spawned at a base.  It would only be at that point that you would know what side you were on.  That would distroy the squad community which was the only reason I play this game.  but that would balance sides, if that is what AH is attempting to do, it's the only way sides will ever be balanced.  I"d stop playing at that point.

When I first signed up for the two week membership, that first time I signed in,  AH assigned me to a side.  I"ve been a Knight all this time.  That's the side I play for. That's my team.  I'm not a side switcher.  I think it's part of the fun of the game to be fighting for one side.  It's the American way to fight a war.  It's the way we play all our games.  When you played ball, you played for your team, right?  I know going in that at some time of the day, my team may be out numbered.   It's a three sided war,  in theory each side is out numbered by the total of the other two teams.  

I'm glad you enjoy the early war arena, but the numbers of players that only want to fly early war planes is limited.  The largest number of people I've seen in that arena has been 45,  Split between three sides that's not many on any one side.  If a large squad rolls in to that arena the game becomes totally unbalanced.  But your one arena allows up to a max of 350.   While my arena only allows a max of 120.  I want to be equal to you.  I want at least 350.  I want the larger numbers.  I want an MMOG as advertised by AH, "with hundreds of other pilots".

Currently the only thing that AH has accomplished is to spread the palyer community out over several servers.  The server load is balanced, but not the player community in any one arena.  Tell me Lazs if everyone signed on to the EWA would that max number remain at 350 or would AH do to the EWA exactly what it has done to the LWA and split the arena.
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« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2006, 10:09:33 AM »
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argue it any way you want but there are 4 arenas with 12 sides to be on.... about 11 of those sides have plenty of room for a squad to play on as a group in numbers up to 32 or more.

What he is crying about is that eveyone isn't forced into one arena where his plane is in the very top couple of usefull planes.   He further limits himself to one chess piece and is unwilling to change.

mrnogame...  you don't even have the guts to tell us who you are... I doubt that you play.

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Again you miss the big picture.  Fencer has been around longer than you could even wish to say you were.  He was a major player back in the AW DOS days and some of his revelations are in the manual.  He knows what he's talking about and you respond to his post in your usual condensending form and belittle him for his observations and opinions.  I fail to see where he was "crying" about anything.  Next you accuse him of being a late war plane fanatic but there are 51-B's  and 47-D-11's in mid war.  You still go with the side switching routine.  It's really hard to get an entire squad to jump at will from hour to hour unless everybody had invite rights.  It takes a lot of time to switch the players to a different side and then invite them back into the squad.  It's not practical, it's not efficient, and it's time consuming and not all of us have a lot of time to devote to our favorite recreation as we have jobs, families, and other responsibilities.  Your style of gameplay is "Lone Wolf" and a vast majority of gameplay style is "Team Work".  Last but not least is the "chess piece", why shoud it matter to you?  I don't care that you jump around and will and you shouldn't worry if other don't want to.  Who died and made you master of AH anyways?  Just take three valiums and don't call us in the morning.

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« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2006, 10:49:38 AM »
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First there are not 4 Arenas and 12 sides to chose from.  If you have a squad of 18, All 18 have to be in an arena just to communicate and discover where everyone is. Then you would have to log out of that first arena and back in to the arena that would allow for the 18.  Now if you are a toolsheder,  You only have one choice where there are the number to offer some kind of fun game play;  that's the LWA, not because it's easy, but because it generally offers the most challenging game play.

AH has only provided the tools to locate your squad  after loging in to an arena.

I originally became a paying customer because I wanted to play an MMOG.  With the main arena that is what AH offered.  With the new arena set up.  I don't see the game as an MMOG at this point.  

The only  way to balance sides if that is what AH's was attempting to do is, to automaticly balance sides everytime you attempt to enter a flight.
 
In other words,  Everyone would wait in a tower, there would only be one tower and at that point you chose your aircraft and select the fly button   you get spawned at a base.  It would only be at that point that you would know what side you were on.  That would distroy the squad community which was the only reason I play this game.  but that would balance sides, if that is what AH is attempting to do, it's the only way sides will ever be balanced.  I"d stop playing at that point.

When I first signed up for the two week membership, that first time I signed in,  AH assigned me to a side.  I"ve been a Knight all this time.  That's the side I play for. That's my team.  I'm not a side switcher.  I think it's part of the fun of the game to be fighting for one side.  It's the American way to fight a war.  It's the way we play all our games.  When you played ball, you played for your team, right?  I know going in that at some time of the day, my team may be out numbered.   It's a three sided war,  in theory each side is out numbered by the total of the other two teams.  

I'm glad you enjoy the early war arena, but the numbers of players that only want to fly early war planes is limited.  The largest number of people I've seen in that arena has been 45,  Split between three sides that's not many on any one side.  If a large squad rolls in to that arena the game becomes totally unbalanced.  But your one arena allows up to a max of 350.   While my arena only allows a max of 120.  I want to be equal to you.  I want at least 350.  I want the larger numbers.  I want an MMOG as advertised by AH, "with hundreds of other pilots".

Currently the only thing that AH has accomplished is to spread the palyer community out over several servers.  The server load is balanced, but not the player community in any one arena.  Tell me Lazs if everyone signed on to the EWA would that max number remain at 350 or would AH do to the EWA exactly what it has done to the LWA and split the arena.
Where do I begin?

Well, if you have a squad of only 18, then the ch 4 red standard squad text channel works across all arenas making it as if all of your squadmates online are in the same arena.  Very easy to communicate, just like before the change, the only exception being you can't use vox across arenas.  I'd expect that to be fixed too though.  I'm assuming you guys use not the default squad channel but a numbered channel?  Why?

Again for the 1,000th time the changes have nothing to do with server balance.  If you notice all of the Main Arenas have the same ping time, because they all run off the same server.  EW, MW, LW1 and LW2 all run off the same server.  Yup, they do, just like the huge MA of all did.  So actually now you have more people across more arenas on the same server.  Kind of blows away your "server balance" argument, doesn't it?

Why are you so against balanced sides?  Can you only do the toolshed thing if you have a numbers advantage so it's actually possible to lemming toolshed that undefended base?  I'm assuming so, everything I see in the MA points to that observation.

Only challenging gameplay in the LW arenas?  Please, allow me to laugh... How can only flying the best, fastest, most heavily bomb laden late war uber rides make doing anything a challenge?  If anything, it makes it vastly easier, since less planes should be able to accomplish more with better performance and armament.  Oh, and the strat "game" in AH is about as complicated as moving your mouse to click on a desktop icon.  Click click!

The changes aren't perfect, but your constant thick headedness about the reasons they were implemented is growing tiring, especially when numerous players, including HiTech himself have repeatedly explained them to you.  Go back and read Pyro's orignal post on why the change was implemented.  That cleared it all up for me.

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« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2006, 11:27:19 AM »
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Where do I begin?

Well, if you have a squad of only 18, then the ch 4 red standard squad text channel works across all arenas making it as if all of your squadmates online are in the same arena.  Very easy to communicate, just like before the change, the only exception being you can't use vox across arenas.  I'd expect that to be fixed too though.  I'm assuming you guys use not the default squad channel but a numbered channel?  Why?

Again for the 1,000th time the changes have nothing to do with server balance.  If you notice all of the Main Arenas have the same ping time, because they all run off the same server.  EW, MW, LW1 and LW2 all run off the same server.  Yup, they do, just like the huge MA of all did.  So actually now you have more people across more arenas on the same server.  Kind of blows away your "server balance" argument, doesn't it?

Why are you so against balanced sides?  Can you only do the toolshed thing if you have a numbers advantage so it's actually possible to lemming toolshed that undefended base?  I'm assuming so, everything I see in the MA points to that observation.

Only challenging gameplay in the LW arenas?  Please, allow me to laugh... How can only flying the best, fastest, most heavily bomb laden late war uber rides make doing anything a challenge?  If anything, it makes it vastly easier, since less planes should be able to accomplish more with better performance and armament.  Oh, and the strat "game" in AH is about as complicated as moving your mouse to click on a desktop icon.  Click click!

The changes aren't perfect, but your constant thick headedness about the reasons they were implemented is growing tiring, especially when numerous players, including HiTech himself have repeatedly explained them to you.  Go back and read Pyro's orignal post on why the change was implemented.  That cleared it all up for me.


The red squad channel doesn't work , in fact none of the tools work until everyone is first signed on into an arean. Which means that many people then have to sign out and back in.  It's a pain for the squads.

Would you please tell me, how the new arean set up balances the sides?  It doesn't.  You can log in to any arena and the sides are not balanced.  If the purpose of the change was to balance sides; it has not accomplished that.   I never said I was against balanced sides.  Please show me where I have ever asked for balanced sides.  

Yes, for my money, I thinkg game play in the LWA is more challenging.  Because if a squad of 18 rolls into the EWA and makes the sides 25 knights and only 7 rooks and 10 Bishop, that's not going to be much of a challeng.

I'm talking numbers of players, not quality of the player.  Don't personalize everything.  I'm not.  I"m asking what the purpose of the arena changes are, because I don't see how it makes anything better, just more difficult.

Why is the maximum number of players set at 350 for the EWA and MWA.  Why that high a number?  

I've never hear HiTech Creations explain any of this.  Just people with Second hand information and their best guess.  I"ve looked for pyro's post, can't find it.  Do you know where it is?  Would love to see this actual explanition. Where is it posted?  

As to the ride our squad uses you presume much, but it is the LWA and everyone if free within it to fly what they want to fly.  just as those in the EWA arer able to fly what they chose to fly. right?
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« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2006, 11:36:17 AM »
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fencer... not to put too fine a point on it but if you are a p51/p47 squad then you are forced to fly a certain way.  the forced part is self induced but no less restrictive.

You also have a huge advantage over 90% of the rest of the planeset and are pretty much immune to them if you fly "smart"... there is the rub...your planes don't don't really participate in furballs.. they lessen em.

your self impossed restrictions are why you have to fly in such a narrow band.   I know because I restrict myself (for the most part) to early war planes.   The fact that I don't have to deal with you guys anymore due to the arena changes does not break my heart in the least since running into you before was never any fun anyway for early war or slow planes.

That is all fine untill a guy who flys nothing but the fastest planes in the game comes on and says that he knows something of furballs and furballers and that we are just newbies that basicaly... haven't discovered the late war planes and the joy of running away.

all would be fine if he just said that his narrow idea of what should be flown was now not as fun.

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Lazs,

I was going to comment on your reading comprehension, or lack thereof but I see that you have 18000+ posts.  It would seem that you can therefore type, but you don't seem to be reading too well.

I also was going to type a well formed point by point rebutal of your post, but I will attempt to sum it up in a few sentences so you can move on to your next post.

Fly what you want, enjoy your time and furball all you want.  I don't want to tell you to do otherwise.  The real war was not a furball, but you already know that. I am pleased that you like to fly certain planes, that is the fun of the game.  Please do not judge others because we like other types of planes.  Everyone should fly what they want where they want.  HTC has done an excellent job of giving everyone that opportunity.  And I have no self imposed restrictions.  I can fly a spit or another turn plane to my heart's content and do so when the mood strikes.  But I am a P-51 fan and therefore spend my time in them as I am told you do in the Wildcat family.

I know quite a bit about furballing, thank you.  The comment about "team" was for those in a squadron.  AH has a great setup for those who wish 1v1 or other similar size fights but hardly anything other than base capture for those more interested in larger group participations.

Lastly, I do not consider people who fly LA-7s, F4Fs, Yaks or Spit XVIs or other turn fighting planes newbies, I consider them other pilots worthy of their opinions on what they want to fly and enjoy.  You might try applying that to people who fly the Fw190D9, P-51D, P-47D and other fast fighters.

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« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2006, 02:18:19 PM »
fencer.. my reading comprehension is just fine.  I simply don't see your problem.  If you only want to frly with your squad and they as a squad will only fly 51 and 47 then you have in effect. limited yourself to a 51 47 arena by limiting yourself to that squad... matters not what you personaly will or won't fly.

Now... that is not so bad tho is it?  you have mid and lw 1 and 2... that is 3 arenas and 9 sides to get your, at the very most...18 guys on.

dockelly (if you really are a doctor)....  I don't know how long he has been on but I have been on since dos AW myself... I have not stayed with AW past the dos stage because it was frankly and inferior product to the ones that HT put out.

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« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2006, 02:34:45 PM »
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heh... who are you kidding?  This game is 110% about money.

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« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2006, 02:56:24 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2006, 03:01:41 PM »
Lots of limited thinking going on out there...
Anyone that has cruised these boards knows all this has been hashed and rehashed many time... with explainations. If you like it stay, if you don't then leave. That is what free market is all about.

Maybe a few of the one's leaving might team with you and make a top notch Games like Aces High. Takes alot more than coding.....

Sorry if I offended anyone in my babbling!


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