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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2006, 09:32:49 PM »
ya eagler, the best fight is the one you can avoid.

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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2006, 10:40:09 PM »
Go with the box,all that asian crap doesnt work on street.
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2006, 10:50:10 PM »
lol

And let me guess, you know this because you are an expert in every Asian martial art and have tried them all in street fights.

:rolleyes:

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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2006, 02:48:07 AM »
Sprinting is a defensive technique :D
And if you're caught, It's probably judo who will serve you. I've seen Judo guys completely lock Karate guys.
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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2006, 04:06:11 AM »
Sadly none of the martial arts are any good if you are caught off-guard and someone gets the first good punch in on your face. Few real fights last beyond the first fist... martial art(ist) or not.

One good punch and you are out.

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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2006, 04:23:59 AM »
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Sadly none of the martial arts are any good if you are caught off-guard and someone gets the first good punch in on your face. Few real fights last beyond the first fist... martial art(ist) or not.

One good punch and you are out.


Hah, tell that to Chuck Norris. You only get the first punch if Chuck allows it to happen. Then when you throw the next punch and Chuck stops your fist in his hold, he knocks you out with the look in his eyes :D
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2006, 06:54:36 AM »
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lol

And let me guess, you know this because you are an expert in every Asian martial art and have tried them all in street fights.

:rolleyes:

I didnt try them on street dummy.I saw people who did tho.
It's funny to watch a black belt getting his ars kicked within 10 seconds by an amateur boxer.
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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2006, 07:25:15 AM »
Bad execution by one guy doesn't imply the method is ineffective in itself.
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2006, 07:27:48 AM »
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I didnt try them on street dummy.I saw people who did tho.
It's funny to watch a black belt getting his ars kicked within 10 seconds by an amateur boxer.


And if the black belt got a good punch in first the roles would have been reversed. A white belt can knock a black belt if he is lucky.

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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2006, 07:35:08 AM »
I once knocked the front teeth out of a blackbelter, - and I'm no boxer.
I could also lock him.
Luckily for me, He never managed to kick me in the head ;)
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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2006, 08:09:13 AM »
I saw some dude try out some marital arts on the street once, but the other guy just told him to put his pants back on and go home.
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2006, 08:28:16 AM »
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What would you rather be??????

An assassin ninja?  Or a defending samurai?


theres a third option.

Buy a gun and shoot em both ;)
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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2006, 08:48:33 AM »
we used to allways think that boxers had nothing to fear from any of the martial artists...  Hell.. at least we knew what it felt like to get hit.

Now I see this "ultimate" fighting stuff and it is just a bunch of guys learning to box well and... some good old fashioned barroom wrestling if you have to.

I allways figured that the martial arts thing was good to give the kid some exercise and to keep him busy at night.   Nothing wrong with that... nothing wrong with getting a little confidense.

I would not recomend boxing to kids as it is too dangerous for todays utes.

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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2006, 09:27:31 AM »
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i am also wondering if any of you have any specific knowledge of martial arts that you might wish to share or suggestions about which might go well with my philosophy.


Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is good stuff depending on your size. Alot of it is designed specifically to negate the striking advantages of a bigger opponent (reach & power). It's all about blood chokes & joint locks.



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His son also practices ju-jitsu and he spoke of it for a while. It sounded very defensive. He remarked that his son's favorite position was to fight while on his back on the ground.


You can score alot of points in BJJ tournaments while on your back. For example, if you've got a guy in your closed guard, which is him on top, with your legs locked around his waist you have quite a few options, but his are more limited. You can slide your knees up to his armpits and setup a triangle choke (a "blood" choke), get control of a wrist, snap your legs over and lock in an armbar, reverse your position, etc, etc.

What you see alot of in BJJ guys vs guys not very well trained is when the fight goes to the ground, the other guy tends to panic. He'll either get mounted and pounded out, panic & turn his back (and get choked out), or panic & stick an arm out (instant armbar ending).

It is a really good martial art. The classes I've attended have been pretty good. 30 minutes of exercise & drills, 30 minutes of non-stop "rolling" (sparring). The intense guys are the ones that do the 1 1/2 hour no-gi classes before the 1 hr gi classes. That's alot of fighting & scrambling. :huh



ps: To the guys that lost weight. I must be a freak of nature. I actually gained 10 pounds when I was training. :t

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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2006, 10:03:56 AM »
Take any 'asian' martial arts class, and you'll see, when it's time to practice mock fights, 99% of the students ditch all the discipline they were taught and fight like monkeys.
99% of them don't even have, or took the time to develop, the reflexes to use the proper moves for each situation, correctly.

It's not the discipline, it's the user that's just not using it right.
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