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Offline Horn

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« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2006, 02:40:24 PM »
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that photo was taken two years after the north was forced to sign a peace treaty that they then broke.


Wait, what?

That was not an embassy. That was 21 Gia Long St., Pittman Apartments in Saigon. That was an Air America chopper loading up CIA folks and press whose offices were in that building.

What peace treaty are you referring to?

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i don't know how you can be so wrong about so many things, saddam agreed to a cease fire in 1991 and then saddam broke every condition of the cease fire for 12 years, that is why the USA invaded.
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My, aren't we delusional. Was the onus on us to invade?
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« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2006, 04:20:11 PM »
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thats what peace treaty.

i feel like a history teacher, bueller? bueller? :confused:
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« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2006, 07:43:29 AM »
So you signed a peace treaty with North-Vietnam. But even when the North-Vietnamese didn't honor the treaty you still left your ally, the South-Vietnamese to fend for themselves. In other words: You fled.

When you leave the fledgling Iraqi government to fend for itself (and you will), I expect nothing less than a huge ceremony with lots of smiling politicians and signing of documents. Transferring all legal responsibilities to the Iraqis before you flee with your tails between your legs.
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« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2006, 08:19:09 AM »
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So you signed a peace treaty with North-Vietnam. But even when the North-Vietnamese didn't honor the treaty you still left your ally, the South-Vietnamese to fend for themselves. In other words: You fled.



time-line 1973-1975:

#Nixon forces the signing with "linebacker two" the 24 hour unrestricted bombing of the north

# Nixon resigns because of watergate

# the democratic controlled US congress cuts off all aid to the south

#north invades the south, the southern army/air force is in poor condition because of lack of aid, pres Ford refuses to send in american troops/air craft that were waiting off shore, the south falls.

#media claims america defeated.
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yes, the some thing will happen to Iraq, incoming democratic speaker of the house Pelosi said "i will do everything in my power to get the US out of IRAQ"

take notes, there will be a pop quiz.
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« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2006, 08:21:49 AM »
well... even if the lefties here force us to stop funding iraq like they did vietnam....  no matter what else happens...

We can take comfort in knowing we will still never be as impotent as a country who was last powerful when dragonsheads were carved on longships and fashionable wear was fur skirts and helmets with animal horns on em.


lazs
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« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2006, 10:18:06 AM »
viking kitty,  

the only error committed during vietnam is being repeated in iraq.  that error is being committed by the politicos.  the only way to win a war is to allow the military to execute the war.  the concept is simple.  bomb the enemy into submission and then set up shop just like we did in europe sixty plus years ago.

the United States military has never lost a war and few battles.
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« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2006, 01:37:11 PM »
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well... even if the lefties here force us to stop funding iraq like they did vietnam....  no matter what else happens...

We can take comfort in knowing we will still never be as impotent as a country who was last powerful when dragonsheads were carved on longships and fashionable wear was fur skirts and helmets with animal horns on em.


lazs


Some would say more balls than brain, though. :D
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« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2006, 02:02:28 PM »
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what ripley, and many euros by extension are saying is that if their neighbor is beating his wife and children and killing his pets it's really none of their concern so long as no blood is spattered upon their windows.


So, what are your thoughts on far worse atrocities currently taking place in
Rwanda?
Darfur?
Somalia?
China?
Brazilian interior?
Chiapas State?

what did you do to suggest US companied divest in American business that opened business in South Africa?

Moreover, did you raise your voice in protest in 1988 when Saddam was in cahoots with the US, who gave him satellite imagery so he could use his chemical weapons (that were supplied privately by US companies)

Let me venture a guess:   No.

How long have you been farting into the same couch was these issues were being raised?



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« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2006, 02:07:52 PM »
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well... even if the lefties here force us to stop funding iraq like they did vietnam....  no matter what else happens...

We can take comfort in knowing we will still never be as impotent as a country who was last powerful when dragonsheads were carved on longships and fashionable wear was fur skirts and helmets with animal horns on em.


lazs


You're probably referring to Vikings, who in actuality, never had animal horns fashioned to their helmets. you probably learned that ultimately from television or the big screen, which is where you seem to find most of your data to support your opinions.

If you're going to make an argument, please try to find factual, accurate data first. I'd be willing to give you some credit for even a sophomoric attempt
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« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2006, 02:22:42 PM »
redbottom...  for the sake of satire the image of horn wearing vikings was a good one... everyone (including you) seemed to get it.

In fact... research shows that while not common...  It was indeed possible that some vikings wore animal horn ornaments on their headgear..

If you are going to be your normal prissy self you should try to pick bettter battles.

lazs
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« Reply #85 on: November 21, 2006, 02:36:37 PM »
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If you're going to make an argument, please try to find factual, accurate data first. I'd be willing to give you some credit for even a sophomoric attempt


i was trying to avoid saying anything about the way norway rolled over when the germans invaded norway in world war two but you forced me to bring it up, happy now?

at least the french put up a fight against the germans.

and if the evil USA did not invade europe in WW2 norway still might be occupied by germany.

how was that for a "sophomoric attempt"?
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« Reply #86 on: November 21, 2006, 02:41:51 PM »
too bad they couldn't have just criticized the germans to death.

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« Reply #87 on: November 21, 2006, 03:39:29 PM »
What atrocities are currently taking place in Rwanda?
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« Reply #88 on: November 21, 2006, 04:59:13 PM »
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What atrocities are currently taking place in Rwanda?


They are sacrificing security for freedom. Or is it sacrificing freedom for security? It's hard to keep slogans straight at times.


















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« Reply #89 on: November 22, 2006, 09:40:23 AM »
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viking kitty,  

the only error committed during vietnam is being repeated in iraq.  that error is being committed by the politicos.  the only way to win a war is to allow the military to execute the war.  the concept is simple.  bomb the enemy into submission and then set up shop just like we did in europe sixty plus years ago.


Well you did bomb Iraq into submission and set up shop, so what's stopping you from winning?


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the United States military has never lost a war and few battles.


No I guess not. Your military just wasn't able to win for 11 years against rice eating, barely clothed straw-hut dwellers. I can understand why the American public got tired of it.


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i was trying to avoid saying anything about the way norway rolled over when the germans invaded norway in world war two but you forced me to bring it up, happy now?

at least the french put up a fight against the germans.


Seeing how Norway fought the Germans for longer than France I must conclude that your level of education is … as expected. :)

Norway was in fact the nation Germany had to fight the longest to conquer.
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