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Offline roach

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« on: November 18, 2006, 01:45:10 PM »
The "Perked Ordnance System" thread contains an entry to a faux BBS link, the 12th entry, by kamilyun.  The quote "We will gradually phase out all ordinance in the MA to encourage..." is false.  

Ironically, some people, including me, learned of a planned perked based ordinance system from other sources before even discovering the thread with the faux link.  This is like being "on hook" when swimming in different waters from the fisherman or the original catch of the day.  

In the 27th thread entry Hi Tech basically condones the hoax rather than clarifying any future intention to modify the game.  However, the thread already existed, suggesting that there is a perk system, relating to ordnance, being considered or already planned for implementation.  So, there was a thread, before any fishhook or bait was planted, unless Kev367th is also part of the hoax.  

The concept of perk based ordnances being implemented may be a complete hoax, however, the rumor has spread like wildfire and upset many players, including veteran players, and is being wildly discussed within the game itself.  It is not clear whether or not this is a complete hoax, or a hoax based on some truth.

The concept may have some basis in validity.  To what degree the concept resides in fact, or fiction, I do not believe is clear to anyone other than AH2 insiders.

To the extent that the subject matter is being discussed, and the volume of people that have concerns over the subject, I believe it is doing the Aces High community harm.  It would be unfortunate if customers left the game due to policy that is false, started by mere rumor, and entertaining only a handful of pranksters.

Is it wise for the game creator to condone something that may be construed as an insult to the customer?  Is it wise to have any connection to something that might belittle the customer?  Many people look up to the game creator and are very trusting.

What further confuses the matter and contributes to myth is that already implemented changes are being discussed within the same threads that possible faux changes are being discussed.  For example, increasing the Auto-AK may be unwelcome by some, but is not a very significant change.  Personally, it doesn't bother me, and I doubt anyone will leave the game over that single issue.  A compounding of many issues is a different matter entirely.

Aces High 2 is a fun game with many subscribers.  It would be gracious of Hi Tech to kindly dispel any myths now circulating about upcoming game modifications, and many of us would appreciate it.  Please, lets end the propagation of false information now, as the joke has gone full circle, and there are people interested in knowing what actual changes are being planned.  

Thank you kindly.

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2006, 02:00:29 PM »
Where this comes from is the post about the changes in the new version. They were explaining why they didn't change the F4u-C. They said that it was going to be scrapped all together and the cannon load out would be a perk option for another F4 (i would imagine the D). Thats all that i ever read "officially". The way I interpreted the comment was that they were eventually going to roll some of the variants into one plane name on the list, and let you pick their variant load outs with the ORD system. Some of the variants are perk planes, so on some planes it will cost you perks to load a certain weapon load out. I never even considered that they would charge perks for things like bombs and rockets. I don't think anyone official has ever said that.

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2006, 02:00:59 PM »
Get rid of perks,points and rank, while you are at it, allow any crate to be flown at anytime, game  would be better overall, less people having siezures about their K/D ratio or some other c$$p like that

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2006, 02:12:33 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2006, 02:14:20 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2006, 02:19:37 PM »
I think they are gonna do something with the perks, but it's not what everybody thinks. I too bought that whole story hook line and sinker. Since then I have noticed little things Hitech has been saying. I belive Hitech is trying to prove a point about something. Only time will tell.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2006, 02:33:31 PM »
Roach, unless your posting under a shades account, in your 3 month experiance , you still have a LOT to learn about these boards!!!

Most of the info bantered about here....and Im talking about 80% or more is speculation and fantasy. Untill it is added to an update to the game, count it as that, fiction. Your post while trying to get more info just adds fuel to the fire, and is no help at all, nor will you get an "official" reply that often, due to the way HTC plays everything very tight fisted.

Next had you read into, and searched for more info you may have come across a post that I think Pyro posted about rearanging the plane and perk system to make it more managable from there stand point. Instead of having 5-6 different hogs avalible they will have they an F4u, and you will choose your loadout, as well as your type. So if you choose the -C model you will be charged perks just as you are now.  From what I get from the post they will just be changing the stucture so that they can do more with what they have.

They can't just do away with perks. Some planes are perked for a reason. When the F4u-C hog came out it was the only plane in the air....well pretty much  :) The game is Aces High, NOT "C-Hog High" so it was perked. If ya think the Spit16 or La fill the sky now and they are NOT perked, can you imagine the numbers of C hogs there were to get it perked?

As the pictures say it, crying about it ain't going to change anything. Might as well cry about that tornado thats going to come and rip your house out of the ground. Don't worry about something that hasn't happen, just play the game, and have fun!
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2006, 02:36:39 PM »
I find it hilarious that some people have such a knee jerk response to something this trivial.  Can we at least wait and see if we don't like whatever the proposed changes are before pissing and moaning about?  Are we that afraid of something different?  Seems to me that HT and Co. got us this far w/out any major disasters.  

So HTC played a joke on some gullible folks, better to raise your hand say yeah you got me, have a laugh and move on.  Than get oneself all worked up over it.  Even when/if certain plane options are perked why don't we wait and see what's going to happen rather than get all up in a tizzy over what is probably little to nothing.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2006, 03:07:00 PM »
No matter what HiTech or Pyro say, there will always be myth, rumor, speculation, doubt, and opinion.  Not necessarily in any particular order.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2006, 03:20:31 PM »
I wasn't part of anything.

If you read through it in one post Pyro says -

"Kidding aside, perk ordnance is what it sounds like- the ability to charge perks for specific ordnance loadouts. It means that instead of having the 1C as a separate plane, I can just make 20mm cannons a perked loadout on the 1D and save space. Beyond that, we could offer up some more exotic weapon choices without fear of them overrunning the arenas or having to add separate planes to do them. 57mm on your Mossie, Tiny Tims on your Corsair, whatever. We're not going to do nukes so forget about that. I don't know when this will be done so don't ask."

Notice different/specific ord loadouts, exotic loadouts, but without adding NEW models.

No mention in the serious one of perking standard loadouts.

Sort of thing I'd expect -
Std (Free)............................. .......Perk
Mossie 4x20 etc.......................... 57mm cannon
Spits........................ ...................4x20mm cannon
F4UD......................... ..................C model with 4x20mm

Dare I say
2 cannon La7 free.......................3 canonns perked :)
PonyD with 50s.......................... .20mm perked
Spit LFIX .303s........................ ....XVI 50cals

Think of it like the old Spit 9 were we had the option of .303s or 50cals.
Only in this case the 50cals may have been perked.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2006, 03:33:33 PM »
Kev,

I really don't appreciate you inserting rational information into a crowd of hyperventilating hysterical conspiracy theorists.

Next thing you know, someone will say that HT, Pyro, and friends have as much right to crack a joke as anyone else...especially since they almost immediately made it clear that it WAS a joke.

Please think ahead --
If we continue to insert perceptive intelligence, emotional stability, and overall maturity how can we expect to have any entertainment value remain?


Let's all work together, inject some antagonism and anger, and be sure to keep those fires of panic well stoked!

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2006, 03:36:03 PM »
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Kev,

I really don't appreciate you inserting rational information into a crowd of hyperventilating hysterical conspiracy theorists.

Next thing you know, someone will say that HT, Pyro, and friends have as much right to crack a joke as anyone else...especially since they almost immediately made it clear that it WAS a joke.

Please think ahead --
If we continue to insert perceptive intelligence, emotional stability, and overall maturity how can we expect to have any entertainment value remain?

Let's all work together, inject some antagonism and anger, and be sure to keep those fires of panic well stoked!

:aok


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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2006, 04:14:24 PM »
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Roach, unless your posting under a shades account, in your 3 month experiance , you still have a LOT to learn about these boards!!!

Most of the info bantered about here....


Perhaps there is a great deal of bantering, and false information generated by the Aces High forum, however, in this case the rumor spilled over into the game community and generated a great deal of discussion outside of the BBS, and by individuals that do not even use the BBS.  The information first came to me by a source outside the BBS, and I then came here seeking answers.

There's nothing new and unique about this forum, it is simply less regulated and more nonsense is tolerated here than in other more reliable user forums.  There's not even anything unique about the arrogance of many forum regulars, just that they are also tolerated by the moderators.  How much is tolerated by the individual seems to be based on that individual's favor with those who moderate the forum.

Either way, there will always be people seeking valid information and help on the forums here - and they deserve respect and accurate information.  Within all of the noise, there are tidbits of useful facts here also.  However, it is unfortunate that we shall all have to second guess everything constantly concerned about the posters motivation and validity of the information.

To those making an honest effort to provide accurate information, I am grateful.  Your help is always appreciated.

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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2006, 04:16:40 PM »
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No matter what HiTech or Pyro say, there will always be myth, rumor, speculation, doubt, and opinion.  Not necessarily in any particular order.


I agree, for this is the nature of the beast!

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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2006, 04:17:03 PM »
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There's nothing new and unique about this forum, it is simply less regulated and more nonsense is tolerated here than in other more reliable user forums.  





Please go tell them this in the O Club.

Bet they get a big laugh out of it.




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