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« on: November 21, 2006, 03:10:44 PM »
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No U.S. models on list of safest vehicles
Insurers required electronic stability control to be considered

DETROIT - Imported models took all 13 spots on the U.S. insurance industry’s list of safest vehicles this year, due mainly to a new requirement that all cars and sport utilities on the list have systems to keep them stable in an emergency.

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety isn’t bashful about its reasons for pushing electronic stability control, saying that its studies show up to 10,000 fatal crashes per year could be prevented if every vehicle had the safety feature.

“The research is so compelling that electronic stability control could help prevent many crashes from happening in the first place,” institute spokesman Russ Rader said.

Winners for the 2007 model year included the Audi A6 in the large car category; the Audi A-4, Saab 9-3 and Subaru Legacy (with optional stability control) for midsize cars; the Hyundai Entourage and Kia Sedona minivans; the Mercedes M-class and Volvo XC90 luxury sport utility vehicles; the Acura RDX, Honda Pilot and Subaru B9 Tribeca midsize SUVs; and the Honda CR-V and Subaru Forester small SUVs.

All 13 vehicles are tops in protecting people in front, side and rear crash tests based on institute tests during the year. Pickup trucks were not included because the institute has not yet tested their side crashworthiness.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has proposed requiring electronic stability control on all new vehicles by the 2012 model year, but institute President Adrian Lund said that’s not soon enough.

“We think that they are too slow,” Lund said. “Automakers will probably have it as standard equipment by the time the federal standards actually take full effect.”

Domestic manufacturers had no models on the list of safest vehicles because they haven’t moved quickly enough to add stability control to their models, Lund said in a telephone interview.

For instance, Ford Motor Co. would have had three cars — the Ford Freestyle crossover and the Mercury Montego and Ford 500 sedans — make the list if they had stability control, the institute said. The 500 and the Montego earned top safety picks last year.

Ford spokesman Jim Cain said all three vehicles will get stability control for the 2008 model year, with versions equipped with the safety feature on sale sometime next year. The company has not determined whether the feature will be standard or optional, he said.

“We’re moving in the same direction as the institute,” he said.

Ford has said previously that it would put stability control on its entire lineup by the end of 2009.

General Motors Corp. said nearly two years ago that it would make the technology standard in all vehicles by 2010, including all SUVs and some full-size pickups in the 2007 model year.

Toyota has said stability control would be a standard feature across all its models by 2009.

DaimlerChrysler AG said it will have the technology on 54 percent of its vehicles this model year and will meet the federal government’s timetable for the rest.

All 2007 SUVs, pickups and minivans produced by Honda Motor Co. carry the technology, while Hyundai Motor Co. said it is standard equipment on 70 percent of its 2007 vehicles.

Several other vehicles, including nine Toyota Motor Corp. models, would have made the list if they had stability control, the institute said.

No small cars made this year’s list. The Honda Civic, which won last year, was knocked off due to lack of stability control on most models. The one version that has the feature doesn’t have head restraints for rear crash protection, the institute said.

SUVs were eligible to win for the first time this year because the institute conducted side-impact tests on many models.

The institute said the overall awards will help people quickly compare vehicles without having to review results from multiple tests.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2006, 03:26:17 PM »
my car has driver stability control, it's a older design but it works very well.

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2006, 04:05:27 PM »
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my car has driver stability control, it's a older design but it works very well.


LMAO!!!! :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2006, 04:21:29 PM »
:lol
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2006, 04:37:51 PM »
This testing was limited and has no bearing on true safety. That being said, this means nothing negative to the American car market, however it does mean that the testing facility is of little or no value to anyone in the market for a vehicle based on true safety.

They may as well limit themselves to cars made in Yugoslavia because they have a set of toenail clippers in the ashtray, long tonails can deplete braking capacity... therefore any vehicle without clippers will not be tested. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2006, 04:56:54 PM »
if a sharp metal spike came out of your steering column during an accident instead of an airbag people would drive much more carefully and hence we would have fewer accidents.

coincidentally i would like to put a sharp metal spike in the foreheads of most of the people I see in traffic.:t

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2006, 04:59:39 PM »
And on the gooood news...

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In its newly released 2006 Annual Car Reliability Survey, Consumer Reports discovered that the Fusion and Milan actually scored higher in predicted reliability than the Honda Accord V6 and Toyota Camry V6. The Zephyr also did well in the upscale cars category, scoring slightly behind the Lexus ES350. Other domestic models did well too, including the Buick Lucerne and Cadillac DTS, both of which were above average in predicted reliability.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/10/domestic-models-gain-major-ground-in-consumer-reports/


Ford should not go celebrating around with this good news.  They should continue making reliable cars with consistency so that they'll gain back their customers.

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2006, 05:23:27 PM »
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And on the gooood news...


http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/10/domestic-models-gain-major-ground-in-consumer-reports/


Ford should not go celebrating around with this good news.  They should continue making reliable cars with consistency so that they'll gain back their customers.


Maybe I miss something, when did Ford celebrate?   They've used and potatod everything from Volvo and implemented it into Ford products.   NOW, they are looking to sell all brands of the "Premier Automotive Group" in Irvine, Ca.    

Ford will be LUCKY to exist (without being merged or bought out) within the next 5-10 years.   They too many exec's that offer little more than redundancy and they can't even get THAT to work.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2006, 10:46:53 PM »
The US automakers should dump the unions.  If they do this, they can produce a higher quality car (safer, more powerful, better) for less money then any import.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2006, 06:46:59 AM »
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my car has driver stability control, it's a older design but it works very well.


Thanks for the laugh!!

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2006, 08:20:06 AM »
I figure that you are better off simply learning how to drive so that you don't wreck cars.

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2006, 08:25:40 AM »
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"predicted reliability "?  what is that?  we think this car will be reliable?


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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2006, 10:49:55 AM »
FORD:  Fix Or Replace Daily

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2006, 11:05:08 AM »
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FORD:  Fix Or Replace Daily


FORD:  First On Race Day

Also, it is "Fix or REPAIR Daily"
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2006, 11:14:48 AM »
I think Ford is not as bad as Benz's today. Their C and E class models are lemons!