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Offline captkaos

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Spit IX = C.205 ?
« on: November 21, 2006, 06:14:59 PM »
I just noticed that the Spit IX and C.205 are now ranked the same for ENY and OBJ, how can that be?  The C.205 is a good plane, but it is not equal to a Spit IX.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2006, 06:45:51 PM »
I've out turned spits with the C205. It can easily compeat with the IX. C205 is fast and has a good climb. So does the IX, which is why there ranked the same.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2006, 06:53:04 PM »
The ENY seems a bit out of whack lately...

190A8 = something like 30-35ish

but the UBER L33T 190F8 has an ENY of 21??
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2006, 07:23:09 PM »
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The ENY seems a bit out of whack lately...

190A8 = something like 30-35ish

but the UBER L33T 190F8 has an ENY of 21??


Ive said it before, Ill say it again. Hurricane IIC in late war = ENY 10. Even the 109K4 has a higher ENY then that! Something is wrong...
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2006, 08:45:55 PM »
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I've out turned spits with the C205. It can easily compeat with the IX.  

Heh heh heh.

The alternative view is that the two aren't even close.

- oldman (and I think that probably includes the Spit I)
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2006, 09:13:04 PM »
ENY is a combined rating and its very generalised, dont take it too seriously.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2006, 09:30:44 AM »
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I've out turned spits with the C205. It can easily compeat with the IX. C205 is fast and has a good climb. So does the IX, which is why there ranked the same.


While in RL that was a good possibility AFAIK, in AH,,,,,no.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2006, 10:21:06 AM »
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Ive said it before, Ill say it again. Hurricane IIC in late war = ENY 10. Even the 109K4 has a higher ENY then that! Something is wrong...


Reynolds that ALMOST makes sense.  At least the HOicane gets plenty of kills and has 4 uber cannon....

show me where the 190F8 has a easier time of shooting down another plane (other than a rocket vulch) than the 190A8.
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2006, 04:45:44 PM »
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While in RL that was a good possibility AFAIK, in AH,,,,,no.


Will I do play H2H with a lot of noobs. But I have.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2006, 02:10:24 AM »
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Reynolds that ALMOST makes sense.  At least the HOicane gets plenty of kills and has 4 uber cannon....

show me where the 190F8 has a easier time of shooting down another plane (other than a rocket vulch) than the 190A8.


Im not saying its harder than the A8, but it DEFINATELY deserves an ENY of at LEAST 20 in my oppinion, because it is slow as hell, and having cannon only works if you can get close eough to your enemy to hit them. K4 is one of the fastest planes in the game (Or so many people say) and it's ENY is still 20 even though it too has an uber 30mm cannon.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2006, 02:38:42 AM »
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Im not saying its harder than the A8, but it DEFINATELY deserves an ENY of at LEAST 20 in my oppinion, because it is slow as hell, and having cannon only works if you can get close eough to your enemy to hit them. K4 is one of the fastest planes in the game (Or so many people say) and it's ENY is still 20 even though it too has an uber 30mm cannon.


109K4..........5258 kills.....3671 deaths...1.43 K/D

Hurri Mk2C...15043 kills...9429 deaths...1.59 K/D


Thats one reason other than just raw ability of the plane

190F8...1158 kills....1692 deaths...    .68 K/D

190A8...6337 kills....5638 deaths...1.12 K/D


So why on earth would a 190 with up to 2x more fire power with a better than 1:1 K/D have a higher ENY than a plane with far fewer kills and less than a 1:1 K/D?

Not sure what other factors go into the ENY, but at least for the 190F8/190A8 it does not make sense.

Just a quick check of the...

La7........20756 kills...17326 deaths....1.19 K/D

Spit 16...23532 kills...20759 deaths....1.13 K/D

N1K2......26255 kills...20541 deaths....1.28 K/D

Maybe HT uses a Voodoo witch doctor do come up with ENY? ;)

Also why does the Hurri Mk2C have a better K/D than the 109K4 if speed is so important?  More vulches?  Better HO percentage?  Find them in a hoard?  Base defence?

Some food for thought if you don't get enough turducken :D


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These are for the current tour (82) as of turkey day.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2006, 07:05:46 AM »
Its the way we fly em......................
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2006, 03:46:02 PM »
The HO and the Vulch. I have really never seen nor heard of a 109K4 vulching a base, but the Hurricane is always there with what you call "low altitude field suppresion". Also, the nickname HOricane is there for a reason. Its infamous for that. As far as aricraft capabilities though, the ENY of the Hurricane should be much higher than the 109K4.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2006, 06:17:19 PM »
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The HO and the Vulch. I have really never seen nor heard of a 109K4 vulching a base, but the Hurricane is always there with what you call "low altitude field suppresion". Also, the nickname HOricane is there for a reason. Its infamous for that. As far as aricraft capabilities though, the ENY of the Hurricane should be much higher than the 109K4.


BUT based on the numbers it would follow that the Hurri Mk2C would have a lower ENY than the 109K4.

It has a better K/D and almost 3x the total amount of kills than the 109K4.



But try ot figure out the 190 problem then :D

Plus try to find some numbers to support your claim, otherwise it's just peeing into the wind.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2006, 09:26:58 PM »
ya really out turning spits in c205 is not a hard thing to do

1.empty all wing fuel
2. throtle control
3.flaps
after that ur prob. on his six or u have been cherry picked by his other spit freinds:rofl
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