Pointless Gameplay.

[B@tfinkV]

chaingun it wasnt you sir!! that was a fair shot and a good one S! I must admit i had to laugh when i saw your IL2 at 13k, you have the patience of an artist   nothing at all to do with our encounter earlier, and i know you can give a good fight.


slapshot, good point, you've got me thinking there.



TW9, if you view from his cockpit, all you see is my nose untill 50yrds.

in a merge, you do not have to fly through each other, i dont think i could have waited much longer to break. he was merging on the dive, and i had worked some vertical seperation by diving early. as i pull up i come to the point where i could pull my guns on target, but i assume (yes, stupidly) that he wants a good fight and deliberately keep my nose just off target.



look from his view, it isnt untill the very last second that he sees anything but my nose.




may i also stress that i didnt want this to become a personal matter with the pilot involved, i will hold no grudge against him.

i will, however, call that style of 'fighting' a lame waste of time untill the cows come home.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by TW9
did u watch the film rock? he did exactly what i thought he did which was pull too soon and ended up getting his tail shot off.. why wouldnt he take the shot?  in the other players perspective he probably saw nothing but belly and arnold.. nothing close to a ho..

so he wants to merge? yet he breaks soon instead of actually merging  trying to gain an advantage and he's mad he got shot for it.. im sorry but elfy didnt do anything wrong here..

I just did and I will have to say that knowing the players involved I think Elfy will alwyas take this shot!  I think it is a lame way to play a game and people who like taking this shot when just two are around are usually caught up in the "name in lights syndrome".  It is contagious gamestyle that I think is lame!  So AKelfy is worried about his perk ride?  I don't know, unless you dont have the confidence to totally pwn the guy without resorting to "High deflection" shots on the first merge!  Simply put, if AKElfy misses that shot He runs to his CV ack and anyone that would dispute that hasn't flown enough around "certain" said vets in this game!  He did not want to fight, he wanted to "get the kill".  Maybe people are worried about their perk rides, maybe about their stats, reguardless of what the reason is, you'll play he11 getting them to fight if its co= merge on alt and E! If they can't get that cheapshot in they usually just run for ack/help!  By the way, TW, your right about it not being what most people consider a HO, but I consider it a HO because it was a Head On merge!  I get absolutely no enjoyment of shooting someone down in that situation!  If anything I feel a little bush league for not fighting the guy!  The way I look at it, a HO shot is not a fight, its a sucker punch that lands first!  Is it battle?  Yes.  Is it fair?  Many  people would never start a fight with a sucker punch if the odds are even.  So it basically boils down to "how" you want to fight, or "what" class of fighter  in which one wished to be considered!  I once found Lute floating around fighting in his nik.  I asked him to meet me at certain alt, which he did.  We danced in the vert a few rolls or so and he eventually got a solution on me.  Afterwards he said, "I can't believe you didn't go for those HO shots! "  I replied something to the extent of, "HO's do not determine the best fighter in the fight, it distinguishes the one who is losing!"  
Mark

[Guppy35]

One last comment.  Both you guys were in 1Cs.  Anytime i see a 4 cannon bird, I bet the house it's gonna be a HO as usually those guys are compensating for something with all those big guns

No point in going anywhere near a HO situation with a 4 cannon bird.  I'd rather fly along like I don't see em and let em try for the first pass, break on em, reverse and game on.

[SkyRock]

Geesh somebody slap me for typing all that!  But you get the point!

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by B@tfinkV
" dont fly at me if you dont want to get ho'ed"  

sounds like those vets were giving you good advice.  If you give the other guy any type of shot opportunity it would be really stupid and n00blike for you not to expect them to take the shot.

Oh...and honor went out the window on that cold French autumn day when some guy decided to take a rifle up with him to shoot at the other guy.


ack-ack

[helbent]

Waaahhhh I GOT HOED

wanna see the film? =)

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
sounds like those vets were giving you good advice.  If you give the other guy any type of shot opportunity it would be really stupid and n00blike for you not to expect them to take the shot.

Oh...and honor went out the window on that cold French autumn day when some guy decided to take a rifle up with him to shoot at the other guy.


ack-ack

Again lamer response!  Either you don't get it, or your trying to paint it into something it's not!  At any rate, maybe not commenting at all is your best case!  

[john9001]

this lamer has a new purpose in AH, to HO skyrock. I hope he is a bish or rook.

44MAG

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by john9001
this lamer has a new purpose in AH, to HO skyrock. I hope he is a bish or rook.

44MAG

3 things you need to learn first:
1. I fly under the cpid CptDeath
2. I fly all countries and owe no allegiance to one
3. You might be able to HO me if I'm already fighting one or ten, if 1 vs 1, your dead meat if you try to HO me as I will own you to a point that you might give the game up in a shame ridden he11!:aok

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Again lamer response!  Either you don't get it, or your trying to paint it into something it's not!  At any rate, maybe not commenting at all is your best case!  

Ahhh...the typical response from your typical idiot.  Can't you do any better other than calling someone a "lamer"?  Sounds like you're trying to compensate for certain "short-comings".



ack-ack

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
 Sounds like you're trying to compensate for certain "short-comings".



ack-ack

Well that was a good shot in the dark there for you, too bad you were off by quite a bit!  lol  You gave a typical response of a lamer, so I appologize to you if you are not a lamer, you just fooled me with your words!  Considering your style of play, you don't really have the "experience" in co-alt 1 vs 1 engagements to make a contribution to this thread!

[Shifty]

Let me see if I got this....................

A guy kicks his rudder on the merge and shoots your tail off. Not hitting your engine or getting a PW, but knocking your tail off. That's lame?

You get an 800 yard uber cannon kill on the Dora. That's not lame?

[Nomak]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Nope ... don't consider it an HO ... only cause you didn't have a guns solution and without that ... it's simply a high angle deflection shot.

Now ... from what I can see you assumed, and for the life of me I can't understand it, that both of you were going to do a DA cold merge.

Also, you merged way too close setting yourself up for such a move, especially in the MA. In the MA, I give myself plenty of separation which does not allow someone to pull that move.

I hate to say it Bat but you set yourself up for it ... especially due to the fact that you had no clue as to who was in the other plane. Had you 2 talked over 200 prior to the fight, then I could see the anger ... but not under these circumstances.

Yeah I am with Slappy on this one.  Pretty much word for word agree.

Dave

[Murdr]

Originally posted by B@tfinkV
" dont fly at me if you dont want to get ho'ed"  

Ive said that myself on occasion.  

I dont fly into initial merges with intentions of HOing, but ya gotta keep people honest too.  If their no HO merge leaves a snapshot, Ill take it.

[killnu]

in the film, it looks if neither of them broke and stayed on course...they wouldve collided...so, it ends up being a game of chicken?  who breaks to avoid collision first gets shot thinking it a cold gun merge..but really it was "ill collide with you if you dont break and give me a shot" ?

may be wrong.  wouldnt be the first time.  wouldve loved to see the whines if they collided tho.