Furball Survival

[FrodeMk3]

Hey, I need to pick a few brains on this subject. Ever since AHI, I've been able to wade into a furball and more or less hold my own (1-4 kills, then get shot down.) However, I've noticed now, I'm usually more outnumbered in the vicinity. I was in LW Orange, trying to find a fight where I did'nt have 6 friendlies on one con.  So, I flew over the skirmish line fights, and went back towards the NME field a little. I found a friendly on the deck in trouble. I dove in, but said countryman was in a chute before I could get within 2k of his antoganists. At that point, I was facing 6 to 1 odds. I was in a Ki-84, and I could'nt run from some of the planes in the area(Saw at least one LA-7.) So, I elected to fight it out.

     What I'm looking for, are some tips and tricks to be able to even the odds a little, before I'm stuck doing nothing but evasives, from 3 v 1 and more odds. I was only able to make one firing pass (which was evaded) and from then on, It was only a matter of time till I got shot down. I don't want to resort to flying nothing but an LA-7, But it's starting to look that way.

[kamilyun]

Switch to the country with #'s  

edit:  What part of Cali you in?

[FrodeMk3]

Hey kam...I'm in Bakersfield, about 100 miles N of LA.

[croduh]

Don't just dive in, scan the situation on radar, dar bar on whole sector.


PS kamilyun u forgot to ignore ball

[hubsonfire]

If you're really that worried about surviving, stay out of 6 to 1 fights.

[Platano]

Yea duh jus basically said it... Dont just dive into a fight...before you commit to a target scan the sky for any potential high cons looking for an easy pick... Take a look at the ENM dar bar on the map and see how it is compared to Friendly... If dar is Big but You see no one around that only means one thing: that their on their way....get ur alt up and get ready for the wave of ENM cons.....

Its all about Situational Awarness...

[kamilyun]

Originally posted by duh
PS kamilyun u forgot to ignore ball

Thanks.  I added him

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[B@tfinkV]

OMG the the most genius thing ive seen all year furball, hubs!

[TW9]

Originally posted by FrodeMk3
At that point, I was facing 6 to 1 odds. I was in a Ki-84, and I could'nt run from some of the planes in the area(Saw at least one LA-7.) So, I elected to fight it out.
     

Could have outclimbed most of them..

[FrodeMk3]

Platano, normally the topic of this thread would seem like a stupid question. The reason I've put this forth, is because I have personally witnessed Fester pull off 4-6 vs 1 odds, and I know other sticks have done it. The problem is, If I become unwilling to dive into a furball, then what point in upping a plane at all? To me, I get the most fun out of getting into as much of a situation I can handle, and still have some chance of survival.
But lately, the furballs' in Orange seem...Too big.

[B@tfinkV]

we need films frode, then we can for sure say 'you shoulda done this' or 'shouldnt of done this' maybe.  hard to lend advice when we dont know what you usually do in that situation.

[hubsonfire]

Really, there's no formula for it, and there's no tried and true strategy. Every fight is different, even if it's the same 7 guys every time. It's part gunnery, a lot SA, part knowing what your plane can do, what the other guys' can do, not being the first guy to make a serious mistake, spotting the guy who does make one, starting situation, everyone's alt, speed, etc etc.

That being said, the only way to get better at that kind of thing, is to keep at it. Watch some films, yours and others, and try to figure out what you could have done better, or instead, and then to track all 102 factors in the middle of the fight, and hope the other guys aren't doing the same. GL.