Author Topic: WTG Congress (Read 1375 times)

Phaser11 · « **on:** December 04, 2006, 09:02:43 AM »

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061204-122448-1240r.htm

Woops,
I wonder if there will be any lawsuits for the people that followed the rules to get there money back from the government!

lukster · « **Reply #1 on:** December 04, 2006, 09:10:43 AM »

Did Hillary and her open opposition to a bill Congress put to the Senate leave any doubt that the democrats will give anyone who wants it citizenship in the US? Bill gave our technology to China. Hillary will give everything left away.

Suave · « **Reply #2 on:** December 04, 2006, 09:11:12 AM »

You can't just post links dude, this is going to get modded unless you write a couple of sentences concerning the subject.

Phaser11 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 04, 2006, 09:28:02 AM »

Thanks Suave

Widewing · « **Reply #4 on:** December 04, 2006, 09:29:45 AM »

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Originally posted by lukster
Did Hillary and her open opposition to a bill Congress put to the Senate leave any doubt that the democrats will give anyone who wants it citizenship in the US? Bill gave our technology to China. Hillary will give everything left away.

They can pass all the bills they wish, but they'll need a 2/3 majority to over-ride a Presidential veto....

Which is why the democrats need the White House.

My regards,

Widewing

Ripsnort · « **Reply #5 on:** December 04, 2006, 09:32:09 AM »

The Dems are trying to supplement their voting base by this move.

What Widewing said.

lukster · « **Reply #6 on:** December 04, 2006, 09:43:48 AM »

Bush has always been pretty soft on immigration. I'm not sure we can count on him to veto reformation and amnesty.

Charon · « **Reply #7 on:** December 04, 2006, 10:41:45 AM »

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Bush has always been pretty soft on immigration. I'm not sure we can count on him to veto reformation and amnesty.

Yep.

The problem is that it's only the American people who want to get tough on immigration. Politicians of both parties, for many similar and some different reasons, have no interest in change. We will have to seriously flush Congress to get any change.

Charon

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 04, 2006, 11:06:02 AM »

And the revolution is one step closer.

Nilsen · « **Reply #9 on:** December 04, 2006, 11:36:10 AM »

Politcians are in the hands of the big businesses that payes their way to power. Big business wants cheap labour and so much of it that they can pick and choose while paying less than in a market were there is a labor shortage.

Charon · « **Reply #10 on:** December 04, 2006, 11:48:43 AM »

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Politcians are in the hands of the big businesses that payes their way to power. Big business wants cheap labour and so much of it that they can pick and choose while paying less than in a market were there is a labor shortage.

Yep. But future votes is also an issue. Demographically, potential future Mexican-Americans represent a significant power base. While this will likely benefit the Democrats more, even the Republicans have an eye on this angle since many Mexican immigrants have religious/conservative values that fit well with recent Republican platforms. Neither side wants to totally alienate this group. But yeah, business likes exploiting immigrants and they write the checks.

So as not to be a total hypocrite, I'm sorry to say that even I paid an operation with likely "undocumented" workers to do my final fall clean up this year. I was just too stretched to do it and the price was "right." However, I could live without that if push came to shove.

Charon

Tac · « **Reply #11 on:** December 04, 2006, 11:51:43 AM »

If you think of it that way imagine this:

If all the current illegal immigrants become naturalized citizens... that means the big bussiness can no longer pay them a cent an hour but the minimal wage.

Its bad for them. The bussiness that depend on the cheap illegal immigrant labor I bet are lobbying to keep the illegals... illegal.

lukster · « **Reply #12 on:** December 04, 2006, 12:24:26 PM »

The democrats can't lose, short term. They open the US freely to all who want to immigrate here and establsih a minimum wage. Since many businesses won't pay minimum wage unemployment soars putting millions more on welfare. Those on welfare typically vote democrat. Of course when it all comes tumbling down under it's unsustainable weight we all lose.

Maverick · « **Reply #13 on:** December 04, 2006, 12:44:55 PM »

It's not BIG business that uses the majority of the illegals for labor. It's the small mom and pop labor intensive operations that do that.

Charon · « **Reply #14 on:** December 04, 2006, 12:52:20 PM »

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It's not BIG business that uses the majority of the illegals for labor.

I wonder about that. I haven't really seen any numbers either way, but an awful lot of service industry operations -- hotel chains, resturant chains, etc. -- seem to have plenty of illegal labor. Apparently that is the case as well with manufacturing in some industries -- poultry production for example.

Charon