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Offline TequilaChaser

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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2006, 12:12:25 PM »
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This game is fun...go away



why even post the above in this forum? if you have nothing of value to offer, then do not reply, Thank You!
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2006, 02:13:01 PM »
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This game is fun...go away



Please take your own advise....



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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2006, 03:35:51 PM »
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I'm a new subscriber to ACES HIGH. I have been trying to learn the site . Aces High has a rather high learning curve just to get airborn. I started out in the "offline" self training area. To be perfectly honest, I have not flown any Aces High airplane that is even close to being authentic in it's flight characteristics. I  have and use Microsoft flight sim, Combat flight sim 1, 2, and three. IL-2, and Battle of Britain. Maybe I got a setting on my computer wrong or something? I have a farely high speed Puter [2.8gzt] with alot of ram. So I don't think it's my hardware.
 Aces High airplanes are all "HERKY JERKY" with very unrealistic flight charicteristics. The engine Throttle is either full on or full off. No control seems to be linear in it's  use. I wouldn't mind the lack of authentic cockpit controls if the airplanes would fly accurately.
 Maybe I have some setting wrong or I'm not  doing something in the software..  But I have to tell ya... The flight models in Battle of Britain or Combat Flight sim. are worlds apart than this.
 I'm willing to hear from anyone about what I may be doing wrong in setting up Aces. The whole game seems to be difficult to get involved with.



You have to realize that those are different games and some of them were made by guys who's only experience with aircraft is riding in them when they go see their families during the holidays.

While the FM in AH2 might not be totally and completely accurate, it does a pretty damn good job in being as close as you can get.  with normal desktop PCs, there isn't going to be any flight sim with a perfect flight model.

And to make the learning curve a little easier, it's best to start off in a plane like the Spitfire IX until you get used to the flight model and then move off to other planes if you so choose.  Just don't get caught up in the "Spitfires is for skilless n00bs" hype.  It's just a whine by those that get killed by those planes.


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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2006, 04:21:54 PM »
i think lagger assumed this was a troll, he said that in light spirits, go easy on him eh?
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2006, 07:29:54 PM »
Stop being the AH BBS playground monitor.  



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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2006, 08:59:23 PM »
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why even post the above in this forum? if you have nothing of value to offer, then do not reply, Thank You!



my bad, liquid stupidity flows through my veins often. I have never played any other sims so I wouldn't know the differance. I like this game and may have missunderstood the complaints mentioned by a potential subscriber. I will now shut up and let the grown ups talk.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2006, 09:11:02 PM »
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Please take your own advise....



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hmmmm....thanks for the kind words, but I think I'll stay.
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2006, 09:25:07 PM »
OK Ok! I give...
I must have to get my Saitek x52 set up for this Sim.. I'm not sure I have the patience to get through the hassle. I also am befuddled by the intriquite arena's and how to navigate around in the Sim. I downloaded some instructional stuff to study. I will stay and work at figuring out the sim until I get frustrated.. All I can report is that my first exsperience with Aces has been difficult. I love the concept and hope I can adjust and get involved.
 As for some folks here "poo pooing" other flight sims. I still have not found a better flight sim than Microsoft flight sim . It's still the standard. I know it's not a combat sim but it is very user friendly and does not take a month to learn the software. The flight models, weather, ATC and IFR approaches for the most part are pretty good.
 I'm an old guy who has 3000 hours of private and commercial flying back in the 70s  before a heart defect grounded me. All I would like here is some help from people who want to make this site successfull.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2006, 10:41:49 PM »
Maybe one of you chaps with an x52 could send him your joystick setup file and see if that helps any.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2006, 11:50:49 PM »
x52 ...eek i doubt there two people with the same config in this whole game...

but you you could start with someones config file  and adj from there .

also get together with a trainer  ..a couple of hours with one would get you over the 1st bump .
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2006, 11:53:07 PM »
This is a link from Eaglers Sig.

AHX52 Profiles
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2006, 04:07:43 AM »
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 I'm an old guy who has 3000 hours of private and commercial flying back in the 70s  before a heart defect grounded me. All I would like here is some help from people who want to make this site successfull.



Well, Aces High doesnt take a month to learn either :).

All i can do is renew my offer of meeting up with a trainer and get you set up in game. Email the Trainer Corps with times you are available and your in game name and whoever is free will get back with you.


With the new setup, the arenas can seem a little confusing at first. The first choice youll have to make when launching the game is OFFLINE (always free, no other players), ONLINE (arenas that are hosted by HTC, you need a subscription/free trial to access) and 8 PLAYER (this is a free game mode where players host the arenas themselves, max 8 player/arena).

For ONLINE game, there are 4 Main Arenas (MAs) split into time frames, Early Mid Late War. This is where "the War" is fought. Expect no mercy on a new guy, anything with a red icon is fair game (but will probably defend itself).

Then there is the Training Arena (TA): This is usually the place to go if you want to get started on flying/fighting or to setup things (if you dont do it offline). In the Training arena strict ROEs are in place, that can be found on the clipboard under Arena Message, also damage is OFF. In this Arena youre pretty likely to find either a Trainer or a longtime player to help you out if you have any questions/trouble.

Duelling Arena (DA): A place for set up duels between players.

Axis vs Allied (AvA): Two sides, historical set ups and terrains, limited planesets.

Special Events Arena (SEA): Arena for special events. We have weekly Snapshots (short, one frame reenactments of historical battles), Squad Ops, Close Escort, huge multi-frame Special Events etc etc.... check out the Special events forum or http://www.ahevents.org for more info on those.



The most important thing youll have to learn is how to use the chat/radio... then you can always ask in game if theres something unclear. That can save you hours of frustrating research :). Just note that the "All" channel is disabled in the Main Arenas... also, theres a new "Help channel" which is orange text and by default tuned to text chan1.


Also, print out this handy reference  and keep it close while playing.
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2006, 04:45:04 AM »
what is a DAT file and what do i open with
i wante to screw around with the stick map see if someone got it better than me
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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2006, 05:09:55 AM »
Nick, i think thats a file to be used with the Saitek software. But since i never installed it and made all my stick programming in AH, im not sure.
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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2006, 05:16:46 AM »
ok i downloaded what windows recomended and that didnt work

btw you remember a while back when i asked your help on the sketchwork soundpack
well still need help it didnt work and the one i have in now dosent have a p40e engine sound
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