Gays in the military

[cav58d]

For those of you currently serving, or who have served in the past, what is your opinion about gays in the military?  Not so long ago I would say there is no place for them, but recently my mind has changed.  I say that if an American is willing to take the oath of service, and possibly risk limb and life for this country then he should be able to without being discriminated against because of sexuality.  I do not buy into the whole "homosexuals have a much stronger sex drive then heterosexuals".  I dont think there is any room for flambouyantly gay homosexuals, nor do I think there is any room for heterosexuals, who use the military as a tool to advance their sex life.  If a homosexual was openly trying to pursue a relationship with a male soldier, or any heterosexual aggressively trying to pursue a sexual relationship with a female soldier, then I think they should be punished accordingly, but I just dont get why a mans (or womans) sexuality can block them from protecting our country.

What do you think

[AWMac]

GWAD if this isn't a Troll what is?

[Neubob]

Originally posted by AWMac
GWAD if this isn't a Troll what is?

How about that last thread you started?

BTW, you misspelled 'gawd'

[cav58d]

Not a troll at all. Serious question, and i'd to hear some opinions.

[DREDIOCK]

No problem.
They need someone to take point in recon missions

[john9001]

if gays get to shower with the heterosexuals, the heterosexuals get to shower with the women.  It's only fair.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
No problem.
They need someone to take point in recon missions

LMAO cute...



Mac

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by cav58d
For those of you currently serving, or who have served in the past, what is your opinion about gays in the military?  Not so long ago I would say there is no place for them, but recently my mind has changed.  I say that if an American is willing to take the oath of service, and possibly risk limb and life for this country then he should be able to without being discriminated against because of sexuality.  I do not buy into the whole "homosexuals have a much stronger sex drive then heterosexuals".  I dont think there is any room for flambouyantly gay homosexuals, nor do I think there is any room for heterosexuals, who use the military as a tool to advance their sex life.  If a homosexual was openly trying to pursue a relationship with a male soldier, or any heterosexual aggressively trying to pursue a sexual relationship with a female soldier, then I think they should be punished accordingly, but I just dont get why a mans (or womans) sexuality can block them from protecting our country.

What do you think

Newsflash,

Gays can and do serve in the military.

[cav58d]

I'm talking about openly serving...But the shower point is a very good one.

[VOR]

Originally posted by john9001
if gays get to shower with the heterosexuals, the heterosexuals get to shower with the women.  It's only fair.

Ha!

The current system is ok by me. They're around and everyone knows it, but as long as they don't start having parades or kissing each other in formation I don't really care. What I don't know won't hurt me.

Every once in a while a couple of them will get caught in the act, but it's not much of an issue otherwise. They can sneak off to some dark corner and twist each others nipples all they want as long as I don't have to find out about it.

As far as the "we're here, we're queer, deal with it" crowd wearing mascara and running amok thru the PX, I'd have to say no.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by cav58d
I'm talking about openly serving...But the shower point is a very good one.

Your orriginal post didn't mention openly serving.

But why stop at gays.....why not disabled?  lets make special jobs for them in the military as well.  WHy discriminate against retards (I think someof the trainees I get are acttually in this catagory)

They could get jobs filling sand bags and such right?


The army is hard up right now.  Lets get a 3 strikes and you enlist for drug offenders rule going.  The military could traine them and detox them at the same time.

They are people too you know.

And before I get berated for saying I'm bad for comparing gays to mental handicapped or druggies I'm simply saying the argument is mad that they are born that way.....well so are those with addictive personalities and disabilities its about changing the mold to fit the needs of the few.

[Donzo]

Originally posted by cav58d
I'm talking about openly serving...But the shower point is a very good one.

Why does it have to be open?  Why is that an issue?

Do hetero's have anything "out in the open" when it comes to their sexual preference?

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Donzo
Why does it have to be open?  Why is that an issue?

Do hetero's have anything "out in the open" when it comes to their sexual preference?

nope,

Sexual Harrasment is absolutly not tolerated in the military.  Talking about your sexual encounters at work is the quickest way to end up at the MEO  (Military equal oppertunity)

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Your orriginal post didn't mention openly serving.

But why stop at gays.....why not disabled?  lets make special jobs for them in the military as well.  WHy discriminate against retards (I think someof the trainees I get are acttually in this catagory)

They could get jobs filling sand bags and such right?


The army is hard up right now.  Lets get a 3 strikes and you enlist for drug offenders rule going.  The military could traine them and detox them at the same time.

They are people too you know.

And before I get berated for saying I'm bad for comparing gays to mental handicapped or druggies I'm simply saying the argument is mad that they are born that way.....well so are those with addictive personalities and disabilities its about changing the mold to fit the needs of the few.

Actually I cn agree with all those ideas.
I am sure there are plenty of tedius jobs even a retarded person can do that would free up regular people to do other things.

Im for removing the age limit as well.
Im 45 and I dont see why my body cant stop a bullet any better then that of a 20 year old provided I am willing to put it on the line.

I think its a grand idea to  force criminals into military service.
Particularly gangbangers
As well as illegal ailians

[cav58d]

Originally posted by Donzo
Why does it have to be open?  Why is that an issue?

Do hetero's have anything "out in the open" when it comes to their sexual preference?

Maybe i'm not portraying my thoughts correctly...I don't think there is any room for homos or heterosexuals to be sexual in the military, or at any job for that matter...You're personal life should never come to work with you, especially in the military.  But if someone in the military finds out about that personal life, you risk being discharged.  I just don't think thats right.  I dunno.  If I get the commission I am applying for, I really don't think I would care about the sexual preferences of the guy to the right of me, as long as he does the right thing and keep his sexual desires at home.  What matters to me is his or her leadership abilities, dependability (sp), and how they would react when bullets start flying, and I don't think homosexuality compromises any of those characteristicstststtststssss .

And gun, I think you're waaaaaaaaay off with the comparison of homosexuals and mental/physical retardations....