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Offline x0847Marine

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Re: Re: Re: Gays in the military
« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2006, 08:02:02 PM »
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Shouldn't the spotlight be on the team member(s) who didn't like the "persons sexual preference" then?
Certainly in a perfect world, professionalism and discipline should run both ways...I would think individual unit members who decide who they want to serve with is a more fracturous issue.


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In a perfect world with perfect people, sure, but police depts differ greatly from the military in that we were all subject to extensive psychological testing / profiling... depts want personalities to fit the city (fast cities want aggressive ofcrs, sleepy towns like less aggressive). We had 9 hard core aggressive alpha males on my shift, we talked and joked about drinking, pune tang conquests, taking down violent felons... we partied, fought, trained and hung out together.. we were a kick bellybutton unit. And then there was the 1 who just isn't on the same page, doesn't relate, hang out... the odd man out. The reality is that odd man isnt trusted, and in that business where ANY and EVERY call you go on could end your career / life.. you dont want anyone around you cant trust.

Once you get someone who falls outside the psychological parameters of everyone else, should the "focus" be on the majority that bond well, or the few who dont? One guy can literally fracture unit cohesiveness, make everyone else uneasy / suspicious... and in the life or death business its just not tolerated well... it just is what it is and there is probably no definitive answer as to "why" or "how can it be fixed"

Gay females though, are openly accepted by the guys... chalk it up to human behavior I guess, something policies wont ever change.

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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2006, 02:29:11 AM »
Good points all...

I still think its a shame that anyone who would stand up and want to serve their country, especially when plenty of others won't - are thought to be unreliable because of something so trivial...

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« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2006, 08:31:02 AM »
I don't think I said anything about unreliable.

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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2006, 03:28:13 PM »
I'm more concerned about greys in the military.


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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2006, 06:14:50 AM »
As a ex marine i have no problem with gays in the military,just put them all in the airforces single seat fighters :noid
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« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2006, 06:31:15 AM »
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Actually I cn agree with all those ideas.
I am sure there are plenty of tedius jobs even a retarded person can do that would free up regular people to do other things.

Im for removing the age limit as well.
Im 45 and I dont see why my body cant stop a bullet any better then that of a 20 year old provided I am willing to put it on the line.

I think its a grand idea to  force criminals into military service.
Particularly gangbangers
As well as illegal ailians


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« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2006, 06:35:10 AM »
Im far to far from perfect to be telling anyone else how to live...As long as it doesnt become a problem to me,I dont see the issue.Gays dont bother me...Male or Female.
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Offline takeda

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« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2006, 06:43:03 AM »
But but... isn't the Navy considered a part of the military?

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« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2006, 12:22:35 PM »
i hope the pentagon doesn't let mooks drive SAC B-52s

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« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2006, 02:02:15 PM »
If I was to categorize homos I saw around here, there are two types: a girlish and regular male. The first type is just like a girl due to extreme physical and mental weakness. The other type is normal male with odd sexual preference. I have no problem with second type being in military. The first one has no place in military. IMHO

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« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2006, 04:33:36 PM »
no problem with gays as long as they don't bother me or my family or march and say look at me look at me.
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