Author Topic: Raid on Polesti (Read 6171 times)

VVV · « **Reply #30 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:32:19 PM »

http://www.ww2guide.com/oil.shtml#halpro

VVV · « **Reply #31 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:35:52 PM »

Here is a quote from this website: http://http://www.ww2guide.com/oil.shtml#halpro
"To achieve surprise, the B-24s, designed for high altitude attacks at 18,000-feet and above, attacked at 200-feet, with some formations ending up at 30 to 50 feet."

VVV · « **Reply #32 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:37:14 PM »

Sorry for the messed up link. Here it is.http://www.ww2guide.com/oil.shtml#halpro

scottydawg · « **Reply #33 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:37:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
You and I are the only ones who wish this plane would be brought into AH.

I have never before heard of this plane.

VVV · « **Reply #34 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:39:57 PM »

I never heard of that plane either scotty. She's a beauty.
Here is another link about Ploesti.
http://orbat.com/site/history/historical/usa/operationtidalwave.html

Platano · « **Reply #35 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:49:18 PM »

Hey Chuck if HT brings that plane to AH you should "un-Disband" Grupul 7 Vanatoare....... just a thought....

Treize69 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 13, 2006, 07:39:59 PM »

If we get the IAR, it'll be Grupul 9. Started out in IARs, ended up in 109s.

Krusty · « **Reply #37 on:** December 14, 2006, 01:37:57 AM »

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Originally posted by VVV
you'll realize why I said 30 to 40 feet. With all do respect, please stop criticizing without any real hard evidence.

I don't care WHAT website posts it. Use the gifts God gave you (logic and common sense) and if you don't have those, I'm sorry nobody can help you. None of the images so far have shown the B24s anywhere near "30" feet. Even the training one (the only one that comes close) has a margin of safety above trees that themselves are 40 feet or more.

The IAR 80 has been requested many times before. It would be nice, but not too different from a "poor-man's version" of the 190A. Less firepower, but slightly better manuverability.

It, like the Brewster, will get its day.... someday. My guess is "not anytime soon", but someday.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #38 on:** December 14, 2006, 01:42:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Treize69
If we get the IAR, it'll be Grupul 9. Started out in IARs, ended up in 109s.

If they EVER, I'll join

Masherbrum · « **Reply #39 on:** December 14, 2006, 01:43:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I don't care WHAT website posts it. Use the gifts God gave you (logic and common sense) and if you don't have those, I'm sorry nobody can help you. None of the images so far have shown the B24s anywhere near "30" feet. Even the training one (the only one that comes close) has a margin of safety above trees that themselves are 40 feet or more.

The IAR 80 has been requested many times before. It would be nice, but not too different from a "poor-man's version" of the 190A. Less firepower, but slightly better manuverability.

It, like the Brewster, will get its day.... someday. My guess is "not anytime soon", but someday.

Yeah, it only made mincemeat when encountered. It's not the plane, it's the "pilot". Just like then, and now.

Krusty · « **Reply #40 on:** December 14, 2006, 01:49:29 AM »

The C2 also made mincemeat of its enemies, especially the 205. Not the BEST performer, slower and has worse alt performance, but the pilots sure knew how to use it!

1K3 · « **Reply #41 on:** December 14, 2006, 01:55:22 AM »

I'm wondering how in the world did IARs decimate the allied fighters @ Polesti... The IAR is like 80 mph slower compare to 38s/47s/51s.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:59:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I don't care WHAT website posts it. Use the gifts God gave you (logic and common sense) and if you don't have those, I'm sorry nobody can help you. None of the images so far have shown the B24s anywhere near "30" feet. Even the training one (the only one that comes close) has a margin of safety above trees that themselves are 40 feet or more.

Krusty. Altitude at the IP was 500 feet for the race into the target. Some planes dropped as low as 30-40 feet as they sped away from Ploesti to try and avoid the flak.

So to be picky about it the bombing altitude was roughly 500 feet.

Early you suggested they were bombing from 3-4k as their low altitude with others stacked 12-14K.

That's inaccurate.

Kya · « **Reply #43 on:** December 14, 2006, 05:12:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
We ran that one back in Airwarrior. We also included the June 44 low alt P38 raid of the 1st and 82nd Fighter Groups.

All those 38s were something to see

That was one of my favorite scenarios to fly in. I would definitely fly if we had it here!

Xasthur · « **Reply #44 on:** December 14, 2006, 05:38:55 AM »

It would be my pleasure to take your wings off for you!