Making Recon Useful

[1epic1]

ok, now you can right click on any airfield and get its status...wtf...the enemy knows if your airfield is down or not that didnt happen in war...how about this:

Each country can see its own airfields information but with enemy you need players to fly over and check them out and they submit a report log so when  friendly wants to know about the field he right clicks and clicks on Recon Report Log, and it will show the latest reports and the report would look something like this:

Recon Report Log............Player: 1epic1......Time:13:49

Fighter Hanger Status: 2 on the big pad down the other 2 on the small are up
Bomber Hanger Status: All up
Vehicle Hanger Status: Up
AAA & AA: All the way up
Town Status:Half way down
Ammo Bunkers: 2 by the tower down, rest are up
Fule Tanks: all up
Enemy Report: occasional upper, but besides that little to no enemy


Now this report can be constantly updated by just submitting new information from anyone, so during a raid on a field have a guy fill this out every 2 minutes or so

I think its silly to have someone just randomly click on a enemy airfield and know almost about everything about it...

[Bad31st]

I like it...actually I've thought of this before and may have posted a while back...

In anycase the way I envisioned it was to add recon specific planes - ie planes with recon cameras in a gun port or the side of the fusalage who would take pictures of enemy fields (screenshots) and then make them available to all by landing at a friendly base giving attackers a visual of the target and it's available resources....

your way would be easier to implement for sure though...

[Bronk]

Hmm might give the guys who can't fight (like this guy lan784 who use to fly) something to do.



Bronk

[okiebob]

love the idea.

[1epic1]

Originally posted by Bronk
Hmm might give the guys who can't fight (like this guy lan784 who use to fly) something to do.



Bronk

[VooWho]

I think HTC should test this out. I like epics idea with the sheet you have to sign on telling the status of an airfield. Also maybe with a recon plane with a camara, it can take a picture of the field like this showing what is up and what is down.

The picture would come in with the report submited by the recon pilot.

Fighter Hanger Status: 2 on the big pad down the other 2 on the small are up
Bomber Hanger Status: 2 on the small pad down the other 2 on the big are up
Vehicle Hanger Status: Up
AAA & AA: All the way up
Town Status:Half way down
Ammo Bunkers: 1 by the vehical hanger down, rest are up
Fule Tanks: 1 on big pad down and 1 by the vehical hanger down, rest are up
Enemy Report: occasional upper, but besides that little to no enemy


This should turely be tested.

[OOZ662]

With a player submitted report, you could get lies. With screenshots, you'd have to store as many pictures as there are fields server-side, then deal with lag of players accessing them.

Why not make it so that the player simply has to fly over the field in a recon type plane, then land at a friendly field. It's as if the intel people at the field take the pictures out and analyze them, then report the findings.

Also, for the recon planes, add "camera" to the damage list. Someone's lucky enough to nail your camera, there aren't any pictures to get out of it. Would aid in making people more crafty with their runs.

[1epic1]

Originally posted by OOZ662
With a player submitted report, you could get lies.  

not really, so far this is a honest imho game and i doubt you will get false reports often, maybe one or two a day  but that could be by error

[RAIDER14]

Originally posted by OOZ662
With a player submitted report, you could get lies. With screenshots, you'd have to store as many pictures as there are fields server-side, then deal with lag of players accessing them.

Why not make it so that the player simply has to fly over the field in a recon type plane, then land at a friendly field. It's as if the intel people at the field take the pictures out and analyze them, then report the findings.

Also, for the recon planes, add "camera" to the damage list. Someone's lucky enough to nail your camera, there aren't any pictures to get out of it. Would aid in making people more crafty with their runs.

AR234 is recon aircraft so all that is needed is the recon equipment

[OOZ662]

Originally posted by 1epic1
not really, so far this is a honest imho game and i doubt you will get false reports often, maybe one or two a day  but that could be by error

Tell that to the spies.

And the little 12 year olds that come by and just create general havok. There are always griefers.

[Reynolds]

Originally posted by VooWho
I think HTC should test this out. I like epics idea with the sheet you have to sign on telling the status of an airfield. Also maybe with a recon plane with a camara, it can take a picture of the field like this showing what is up and what is down.

The picture would come in with the report submited by the recon pilot.

Fighter Hanger Status: 2 on the big pad down the other 2 on the small are up
Bomber Hanger Status: 2 on the small pad down the other 2 on the big are up
Vehicle Hanger Status: Up
AAA & AA: All the way up
Town Status:Half way down
Ammo Bunkers: 1 by the vehical hanger down, rest are up
Fule Tanks: 1 on big pad down and 1 by the vehical hanger down, rest are up
Enemy Report: occasional upper, but besides that little to no enemy


This should turely be tested.

I do that very thing in bombers all the time. I have laminated maps and a dry-erase-marker, and I just tick things off as reports come in. I agree about lies. I screw with CVs sometimes myself (I come over to another country to fly with a buddy, he leaves, and while I wait until I can switch back I try to hide their own CVs from them). Lying IS a worry, as is storing pictures. I think maybe there can be a way to do the airfield screens. Perhaps instead of status its a basic field view just with 'X's over damaged things like in the picture.

[Old Sport]

Here are some ideas as well.

recon thread

[EagleDNY]

Problem with recon here is that any report is only good for 15 minutes - the hanger respawn time.  Real-time recon for us is simple - somebody flies over and starts announcing on the country channel what is going on at any particular base.  Depending upon who it is doing the reporting, the others in the country can decide to believe the report or not.

Same thing with CV recon - a recon plane flies over a CV and reports position, course, and speed, and an icon pops up telling everybody where that is.  Is that really any different from somebody reporting "Enemy CV, X,Y,KP Z hding on the country channel?

Recon here would only mean something if there was something to FIND that wasn't shown on the map.  Maybe HT could put some supply dumps or something out there for use by the first players to capture it.  Maybe a dirt strip with nothing but a rearm pad out in the middle of nowhere.  

It would be interesting if, when a new map began, only your airfields are shown, and other countries facilities only appear once they are overflown by your side's aircraft.  That would make recon useful, since you would want to find the enemy airfields, strat sites, and HQ as the war progressed.  As it is now, with the maps showing where everything is - recon is pretty much a waste except for finding CVs.

EagleDNY
$.02

[Reynolds]

Yes, but HTC is trying to make this more 5-year-old-friendly, and they would start having a tantrum if they actually had to FIND something!

(Other than that, great idea! I love it.)

[Traveler]

I love the idea of Recon.  I think that the game should start out with only your friendly fields identified on your map and as the location of nme fields become known your map begins to show the location of nme fields, cities and factories, rail lines, bridges, and the like.   That’s how it was.  Intel grow and changed everyday.  Air crews were debriefed after every flight, not only for what they saw in the air, but what they also saw on the ground.