LA7 Ufo?

[Whisky58]

The La 7 gets some stick on these boards.

What about some morally robust reasons for using it for a change.

1. It's a good plane for beginners.  Fast, turns well with few vices. Gives them confidence to move on.

2. It's a good plane to up when defending base against hordes.

3. What about the guys who have an interest in VVS planes?  Read about a plane, get some history then do the nearest thing you'll ever get to actually flying it - what's wrong with that.

Maybe we should get off our high horses & consider perspectives other  than the level playing field, anglo-saxon cricket, fair gamesmanship for all ethic that oozes from the bbs whenever La7s are mentioned.

p.s - poor ballistics, yes if you're used to praying & spraying from d800 with banks of 50 cals.  La7 SHOULD teach novices to get in close, that requires skill, rather than blasting away aimlessly hoping for a few hits as many folk do.
Regards to all for New Year.

[straffo]

Originally posted by SINNER
Obviously this can go on to a ridiculous conclusion. The 51 was very prevalent, and f4u's etc. I'm not suggesting that there is a problem with the other planes. I just think when half of every furball is LA7's and they weren't a major factor in WWII, it is a little "inaccurate" if that term can be applied to AH.

The russian front was not a major factor ?

Are you nuts ?

[Hades55]

Originally posted by straffo
The russian front was not a major factor ?

Are you nuts ?

 

forgive them lord for they dont know what they say

they have lost from existence 3,5 years of war

(only in the battle of ukraine there was over 1500000 pows) just 1 battle

[bzek74]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La7

[Kweassa]

The russian front was not a major factor ?

Are you nuts ?

 Ease up straffo...he just might not know the tide of the war was already turned decisively by the Russians by the time the US had started bringing livestock to the war

 Besides, I'm sure he didn't think much about the fact that the top scoring aces of the Allied were all Russians, and the highest scoring Allied ace himself flew the La-7 and thought very highly of it.

[Krusty]

Originally posted by bzek74
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La7

I was going to say "God, please don't link to wikipedia" -- then I checked the link and laughed! Good one!

[bzek74]

Guess I beat the buzzer on that one lol now the real deal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La-7

[bzek74]

But if you read wiki on the FW you would think your 190 would turn on a dime and keep enough e to roll your eyes....I think the quote from wiki on FW was the plane that changed air warfare.

[Patches1]

I flew an LA7 once...into a furball...and flew home with 6 scalps and little ammo left. LA7 flew like a dream...rolled well, turned well horizontally, turned well vertically, stall fought well... and accelerated like a dragster! It is a very capable aircraft worthy of respect!

Perk it? No...it has a very real nose weakness because that's where it's guns are! But! If you fly to it's six...there are no guns there...and it is weak.

Know your aircraft well... know the enemy aircraft better!

One thing HT had better NEVER do is...unperk the F4U-1C, nor the F4U-4!
If he does, he truely unleashes, "The Dogs of War"!

[4deck]

Originally posted by MwDogg
I find the la7 not to be a problem in the MA.  The plane I think is the problem is the hurri IIC.  The plane is way to manuevable at high speeds.  I had 1 the other night stay with me doing a spiral dive at over 450mph all the way down to the earth leveling and yet stay with me for a long time.  Its only the IIC that I find can do this.  Wings should come off at those speeds doing those manevs on the hurri pulling over 7g's.

I think that might have been me. Not sure though.
I fly a Hurri all the time now, when Im not bombing. If im on someones six, I can pretty much stay there now, even in a dive, i use alot of rudder for speed control, with my throttle. I also have been geting alot better due to remapping my views. I can see now. What a tremedious difference. Also back to speed, Im usually extemely slow, Ive never hit that mph or even close even in a dive. As a matter of fact if someone extends out, I break off and find another target. If were on the deck I'll stall them out, and watch em hit a tree. , thats my new favorite thing to do to an La7. Ofcourse it help s with a little cannon in the tail for added weight back there.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
Mussie, meet Steve. He likes to fly 51s in extremely low risk situations. Think GrmRpr w/o a sense of humor.

[SkyRock]

SkyRock's F4U-1<-----------eats la7's like a hungry weight watcher drop out!

[AKDogg]

Originally posted by SkyRock
SkyRock's F4U-1<-----------eats la7's like a hungry weight watcher drop out!

Don't forget spits too along with the ki's, hehehe

[Lusche]

I just checked the main La killers from a strictly K/D point of view:

             Kills of Deaths by  K/D
Me 262         26 114 0.23  
Tempest 68 294 0.23  
Me 163B          9 38 0.23  
F4U-1C        245 540 0.45  
F4U-4         80 136 0.58  
Ki-84-Ia 324 487 0.66  
Ki-61         97 133 0.72  
Typhoon IB 685 879 0.78  
P-47-D25 120 152 0.78  
P-38G        116 140 0.82

Against Spit 16 the La7 has a K/D of 1.02, against the F4U1 a K/D of 1.12.

But you should be careful to derive any conclusions from this table. The Ki-61 seems to be a big La killer, but with only 133 kills, a few dedicated and able pilots flying the Ki can make a huge difference in K/D rate.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by 1Boner
i do believe that the russians produced more la7 s than any other russian plane.

Wow.   Why do you even bother posting?

La-5 - 9,920
La-7 - 5,753

Yak-9 - 16,769
Il-2- 36,163

You get the point.