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Offline Hawco

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« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2007, 10:49:01 AM »
When I lived in Scotland, there was a guy that came into the pub on a regular basis, we used to call him goldfinger on account of his many gold rings he liked to wear lol
Anyway, he was a retired fisherman, said the worst place to go was N of Scotland at a place called the "Devils hole". Said he was on top of the mast up there once, chopping ice away in 35ft waves.
hmmm- no thanks, think I'll stay on dry land!
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« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2007, 11:36:59 AM »
Frigging waves up in the N-Atlantic are big also. You may sit in the bridge of a 1000 tn trawler, and the sea is higher than the horizon. And working fish onboard while the ship is listing zig-zag 30 to 30 degs is somewhat surrealistic.
The sea between Iceland and Greenland is pretty naughty, - in still weather you still have  quite some waves. Explanation is currents passing, one northbound, one southbound. That could be the case with "the Devil's hole", or even or also some big changes in the seabed.
BTW, if you look at the pics of the two trawlers, I never experienced that calm sea.
And Viking, FYI, Iceland has been dabbling with the idea of applying for EU.
There has been a research, and a conclusion which is negative, the reason being fish. Turns out that even if we were to join with a deal about us ourselves holding our own fishing grounds, this can later be altered by vote within the EU. What is the Norse view here?
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« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2007, 11:37:41 AM »
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Hello all and a happy new year.
As I have mentioned before, I am about to embark on a new adventure, - from farming to seamanship. I sail in 22 hours.
This means no AH, and no forum apart from the stop in harbour every month. Much worse is no missus and kids for the same period.
However, it's probably going to be interesting, and full of new things to experience.
So....bye to you all for a while, and I'll log in later when I'm back.
(Right now I'm packing Parrot, Eyepatch, Wooden leg, Arm-hook, Striped pullover etc etc.)
Arrrfff.


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I was away when you posted this...

Godspeed my friend, keep us updated how you get on

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« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2007, 11:47:19 AM »
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And Viking, FYI, Iceland has been dabbling with the idea of applying for EU.
There has been a research, and a conclusion which is negative, the reason being fish. Turns out that even if we were to join with a deal about us ourselves holding our own fishing grounds, this can later be altered by vote within the EU. What is the Norse view here?


Exactly the same. Having seen what the Spanish and Portuguese fishing armadas have done to the other EU fisheries, more or less the only thing keeping us out of the EU is the protection of our offshore assets.
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« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2007, 11:55:42 AM »
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Exactly the same. Having seen what the Spanish and Portuguese fishing armadas have done to the other EU fisheries, more or less the only thing keeping us out of the EU is the protection of our offshore assets.

Just take a look at the decimation of the Scottish Fishing Industry and you'll have your answer on join or not to  join the EU:mad:
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« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2007, 01:05:20 PM »
Icelanders in the cod wars had some part to play with the decimation of the British fishing industries. (Although our foes were mostly Hull, Grimsby, and the RN :D). Anyway, it was in a nick of time, after expanding to 200 miles we had to put quota on our own fishing.
Norway as well has vast fishing grounds, and has kept it's own system. The EU has screwed up their own turf in the meantime and are hungry for more (Typical political deals etc). BTW, the Spanish once declared that they would never give a yes vote for Iceland entering unless Spain would get fishing rights in Iceland's grounds....
We have ongoing debates in the country wether to join EU or not. It was probably Norway through their vote that silenced the joiner's voices for a while, they started singing again and have been put aside recently.
Same stuff in Norway I guess?

And Hawco, How about an independed Scotland eh?
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« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2007, 01:22:25 PM »
Would love to see Scotland in charge of it's own affairs, hopefully in my lifetime anyway, glad you guys are against the EU, as once your in then you can kiss goodbye to your fishing fleets and grounds.
The spanish are like locusts when it comes to fishing.
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« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2007, 04:25:43 AM »
Hehe, Amen to that.
Just returned from a double-tour. This time we were in the N-Atlantic, south of the country. I made a debut as the ship's cook this time, - quite a challenge! Hehe, cooking and frying with everything rolling around!
BTW, the frying-pan is attached to a gyro-unit, - it is always level, so one can easily see how much the boat is rolling!
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« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2007, 04:36:43 AM »
You can hurl in the frying-pan and call it an omlet if the seas gets too rough. :)

yum!
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« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2007, 05:17:43 AM »
Get the new guys to look at that gyro-unit in high seas...:D

Glad you made it back safe.
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« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2007, 05:46:12 AM »
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Get the new guys to look at that gyro-unit in high seas...:D

I was going to say..
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« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2007, 11:17:03 AM »
LOL, that pan is actually quite nice, - and big, like 1/2 a yard in diameter.
Only drawback is that you cannot put much weight on to one end, for it will then tilt that way, thereby gathering all the fat in that lowest spot.
But a good idea none the less, and seems to be a standard on the trawlers.
BTW, the cook also has to wake up the shifts (6 hr shifts round the clock), - 3 out of 4. Cooks shift is 5AM to 9PM, roughly.
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« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2007, 11:17:34 AM »
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Get the new guys to look at that gyro-unit in high seas...:D

Glad you made it back safe.


Thank you :)
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« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2007, 01:13:31 PM »
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Just take a look at the decimation of the Scottish Fishing Industry and you'll have your answer on join or not to  join the EU:mad:
And they raped the Grand Banks off Newfie.

Anyone watch the TV show 'Deadliest Catch'? It is about crabbing in the Gulf of Alaska. Terrible weather and seas there.
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« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2007, 01:22:35 PM »
Saw it.
Looked like dicy work. Up here, if Icing starts, the trawlers lift their nets, and run for their lives. They will ice up like aircraft, and either sink or roll over from the iceload. Bad stuff can happen in an hour or so, and the seas do not have to be that bad.
I've been on deck doing work in some rough sea, and man, I don't like it. If you get flushed out, you're dead, - simple as that. But I was lucky, the deck was never Icy.
On the trawler I went with in January, we were much farther north, and the deck was one slippery ice coated bugger. But they had a special crew for the net-jobs, and anyone going aft had a safety line.
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