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Offline BaldEagl

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« on: January 01, 2007, 02:43:07 PM »
I've been thinking about starting a small squad.  3 guys min, 5 ideally and maybe as many as 10 max (only if it's difficult to get 3 or more on-line at a time).  It would be primarily a Spitfire fighter squad but not nessesarily exclusively so.  Here's what I'm looking for:

1.  Already are or are willing to become a Bish.
2.  Primarily fly a Spitfire although I'll consider Typh and Hurri pilots as well.
3.  Consistently rank in or near the top 1000 overall.
4.  Consistantly manage around 1 K/S or better.
5.  Willing to fly in any/all arenas.
6.  Willing to also fly some buff/attack missions and do some ground missions from time to time.
7.  Usually fly evenings U.S. (prime time).

Here's other misc. info:

1.  No formal squad nights.  Just some guys who would like a good wing man from time to time.
2.  No obligations to fly together.  Do what you want when you want but if it's convenient then do it.
3.  No ranks or any of that other silly stuff.
4.  No need to change CPID.

I know I'm asking a lot so if it doesn't happen then oh well.  Thought this might be easier than asking eveyone individually.

Post here if interested or look me up in the areans.
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2007, 06:39:16 AM »
i wanted to do the same back in AH1, now w have a squadron of great friends, now 3 years on nearly 50 of us. :O





best of luck sir, if you give up feel free to come join our spitfire squadron on knights.
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Re: British fighter (mostly Spit) squad
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 09:29:45 PM »
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I've been thinking about starting a small squad.  3 guys min, 5 ideally and maybe as many as 10 max (only if it's difficult to get 3 or more on-line at a time).  It would be primarily a Spitfire fighter squad but not nessesarily exclusively so.  Here's what I'm looking for:

1.  Already are or are willing to become a Bish.
2.  Primarily fly a Spitfire although I'll consider Typh and Hurri pilots as well.
3.  Consistently rank in or near the top 1000 overall.
4.  Consistantly manage around 1 K/S or better.
5.  Willing to fly in any/all arenas.
6.  Willing to also fly some buff/attack missions and do some ground missions from time to time.
7.  Usually fly evenings U.S. (prime time).

Here's other misc. info:

1.  No formal squad nights.  Just some guys who would like a good wing man from time to time.
2.  No obligations to fly together.  Do what you want when you want but if it's convenient then do it.
3.  No ranks or any of that other silly stuff.
4.  No need to change CPID.

I know I'm asking a lot so if it doesn't happen then oh well.  Thought this might be easier than asking eveyone individually.

Post here if interested or look me up in the areans.


With the exception of being bish......

Sounds like 71 squadron.

been around 3 years now as bat said and are doing all the above.
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Re: Re: British fighter (mostly Spit) squad
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 03:42:11 AM »
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With the exception of being bish......

Sounds like 71 squadron.

been around 3 years now as bat said and are doing all the above.



Except that youd have booted me from the Squad after the first tour, because of the K/D > 1 rule RT :)
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 08:07:33 AM »
yeah eagl, if that's what you're looking for, come and fly with us mate, easy going fun, big bunch of guys just flying and fighting together. i'd say most of the squad are excellent pilots, well above the average skill level.

if you don't get much interest, i'm sure you'd be welcome to fly with us on our channel, see how you like us, and we can toss you an invite ;)

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2007, 08:43:10 AM »
Change the name into 71 RAF Squadron and i'm in :D
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2007, 04:13:12 PM »
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Except that youd have booted me from the Squad after the first tour, because of the K/D > 1 rule RT :)


We would have NEVER booted the sweetst German Freulien(sp) from our squad. Besides....Schutt would have killed me anyway. :lol :D

Now that your famous and all...you never visit us anymore.

Lil snooty now that your all "Big Time" now huh....:rofl
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2007, 06:26:47 PM »
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Now that your famous and all...you never visit us anymore.
Lil snooty now that your all "Big Time" now huh....:rofl



rofl, nah. I just not been in MA much RT.

I hope to have a little more online time on the weekend, and I do not plan on spending it all in the TA. I seriously need to knock some rust off. That is if you guys are willing to take a LaLa dweeb alongside ;).
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2007, 09:06:27 PM »
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rofl, nah. I just not been in MA much RT.

I hope to have a little more online time on the weekend, and I do not plan on spending it all in the TA. I seriously need to knock some rust off. That is if you guys are willing to take a LaLa dweeb alongside ;).


We'd take you no matter what your flying.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2007, 07:12:57 PM »
<--- flies lala

<--- never been booted


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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2007, 12:35:21 PM »
Thanks for the (sort of) invites guys.  I appreciate it.

I was invited to join a Rook squad last night.  I've just always been a Bish through good and bad.  It was the country I was originally assigned to when I first logged on and have never changed (except for 24 hours one time).  Same as in AW where I always flew as an AZ through both good and bad.

Don't know why that is but it just is.

If I ever think about changing I'll keep it in mind.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2007, 12:43:01 PM »
Best of luck, truthfully your describing the 71st (except we're really a hog squad:)).

I've flown for 12 yrs or more across at leat 3 sims with multiple squads and these guys are the best by far. Thats not ment to be derogatory to anyone else I've flown with but a realization of just how hard it is to find the right balance. To me finding that fine edge where you have just enough organization to be a true "squad" without the (IMO) excess regementation. I think your idea on numbers is a bit low. Whats great about the 71st is we have enough members that you almost always will find a few on line and often we have 10 or more during "peak play".

To us every day is usually a "squad" day. At the same time Red, Bat and the other "senior" leadership do a great job of balancing "suggestive balance" and free will. Most of our squad hops/missions are "spur of the moment" and are a logical extension of what we (both squad/"country") are already doing. Very little if any rigidity exists yet we often run sweeps of significant value combining both high surival and combat success.

On multiple occasions I've participated in sweeps were we've had a 100% return rate and a group total of 50+ kills per mission. I've seen RT,Bat & Ted land 15-20 combined kills 4 or 5 hops in row while actually supporting both offensive/defensive operations in a highly contested area (in jugs no less).

This is not ment to "hijack" your thread in anyway....every "side" should have a squad like the 71st. My suggestion would be to consider the following...

1) K/D is meaningless....the quality of the people make the squad.

2) Rank is meaningless...how well you work togeather determines your impact. Besides, I want a guy more interrsted in mixing it up with me then saving his rank:)...

3) plane type is secondary, we are a true "spit squad" but we fly sweeps in just about everything (mostly allied but not always). I'm primarily a hog driver and you'll find RT and bat in D25's a lot of the time...


The goal is good people flying togeather for fun with the goal of making an impact. Focus on that and you'll build a great squad you can be proud of....

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2007, 01:32:32 PM »
humble,

I appreciate your thoughts.  Back in the days of AWI I was CO of what was probably the biggest squad in the game with almost 60 members in 3 "wings".  Maybe some of you old-timers remember the Red Barons of AZ land.

Since coming over here I've resisted joining a squad or forming one.  I did join one for 2 weeks but didn't agree with their tactics/strategies, their regimentation, etc.  Even the Red Barons were too regimented (my fault) but that seems to come with the bigger squads.  I've just wanted to do what I want when I want without HAVING to feel an obligation to my squad-mates.

That said I've always had the thought for a very small, mostly Spit squad in the back of my mind even since the early days.  

As to ranks and K/S those are just there to say that I'd be looking for people with some experience.  I don't want to be a noob-herder/trainer even though I'm sure most are fine people and some will grow to become aces.

The problem as a loner is that I rarely have a reliable wing man.  I pick some up from time to time.  A year or two ago TwoDogs5 and I had a fun night taking on about 6 enemys in a turn fight and defeating them all.  Just last camp I winged with SG (who must have switched over from Knights for a day or two) in the EW arena and we landed about 3 dozen kills between us in 3-4 sorties (he in a Hurri IIC, me in a Spit V).

It's that combination of experience, skill and communication that I'd hope to find, not nessesarily a number.

I'm not the greatest pilot in the game but I know a good wing can pick my game up and I'd hope that I could do the same for my wing-man.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2007, 03:21:14 PM »
I "grew up" in RR#2 (JG26) on AOL back in 92(??) flying Aland before moving to FR (aland). A bunch of the guys I flew with (Yes, Stick, Laghead) joined the 327th steel talons and I tagged along. I left AW in 1999 when +Moss told me about AH....

We seem to have alot in common in that I tend to fly as a lone wolf. At the same time I do appreciate being in a squad. 70% of the time I feel like I'm "driving by" the rest of the 71st....3 or 4 of them are RTBing as I fly out or visa versa. That is however always my choice...all of us (even me) will meet and form up for group sorties. Ocassionally I'll get teased but all in all my wanderings are well tolerated.

We seem to have a wide mix of styles. There is a subset (of which i'm a card carrying member) that I affectionatly call the "suicide brigade" since we can invariably be found low, slow and tangled up regardless of how we started. We also have the "smart" flyers as well as a mix of baby seals, toolshedders, furballers and a couple of very formidable "aces". I decided long ago I didnt have the drive or mindset to form a squad. finding one that offered all the benifits with none of the BS was just blind luck. It sounds like your just looking for a good wing more then anything else. I'm sure there are plenty of bishops to hook up with. If you ever come knight for a day I'd be happy to fly with you.

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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2007, 03:37:56 PM »
Hi BaldEagl,

What Humble (Snaphook) wrote is pretty much right on the mark.

As CO of the squad I find it hard to make people "Follow Orders" so to speak. It almost seems childish in a way to have such a hardline in a game where we pay money to have fun. I have been involved in that type of squad when I first got involved in Online Flying. It didn't take long until I knoew that I wasn't in the Military anymore and didn't need to take orders from some make believe General. I got Paid when I was in the Navy totake orders. I wasn't about to pay to take em.

We in the 71st are a loose group. We have prolly 40-50 guys now. Not all of them fly as much as a few do. There are about 10-15 core flyers that fly relativly a lot. Then we see some for about a week then not for a month. This is fine to.

We run fighter sweeps a few times , then all fly here and there. Someone will holler there is a good fight someplace and we all get there asap. We have a lil structure set up for our squad where we give medals for certain things. But believe me when I say that a few ion this squad whom don't have a medal can hold their own with MOST. They just fight a bit different than others.

We have all kinds of styles here. BnZ. TnB. Combinations. Those who are pretty dang good. Those that are really good. And , those that try harder than most and are working to get better. As CO I don't care if your good or bad. IF you want to have fun , chat a bit , tell a few jokes on climb out , or just rib one another , then This is the kind of squad IMO that you need to promote.

We can do anything or do nothing but midless furball. We can up 5-25 spits on a fighter sweep , or Run some ponies to a bomber intercept.

We've got a great bunch of guys here.

I understand you may have an invite to someplace in Rook Land. Thats cool. But , if you ever need some advice , or what nots just PM me in game or if your ever on Knights , jump to channel 171 on vox and talk to us.

We'd love to fly with ya anytime.
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