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Offline TheBug

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« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2007, 05:55:41 PM »
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Was just asking Viper....... Oh yeah you missed a couple of opportunities to use I, ME, or MY, in both post.:huh


I could be wrong, but I don't think this post was directed at you Dantoo.  Believe it was a reply to Viper's post. The one where he kept saying "I ....".
 I think that is the reason why your "treat you like an adult" post was taken so harshly.

I may be mistaken, but I believe it was a misunderstanding.  Not that, that warrants some of the behavior seen within this thread.  And your not solving a thing by continuing it.
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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2007, 06:23:38 PM »

TheBug
I will respond forever if necessary to ensure that I am not cheaply dismissed by some smug one-line ingrate who is set on causing trouble.  I bent a hand to help.  It has been bitten from the moment I extended it.


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I am continually amazed by implications that many squads saw no action and that this was directly because of the orders that Viper issued.  I have read and reread the orders.  He put almost everybody he had right over the targets to be defended.  He only had two very small groups go off and scout out the CVs.  All the others stayed at the designated targets and defended them for something past the first hour.   After those attacks ceased and after the first hour, he sent out a counter-attack against the carriers.  In fact this increased markedly the chance of further action in the frame for players, not reduced it.  The only case I heard of on the day of people not being met was a second wave attack on the Yamato.  I believe the defenders there RTB'd after a fight and thereby just missed the second wave.  Surely that was good planning and timeing on the Allied CO's behalf?  His sweep worked.  His strikers then followed through unmolested.  Surely that was his plan?  Did his TBM's complain that there wasn't 30 N1Ks there to meet them? I don't recall any other Axis squads reporting that their targets were attacked while they were refuelling.  It's just possible that it happened though.

BTW I flew past you and about 5 other guys in P47s about 10 minutes in.  We were low, slow and heavy and only 3.  I chose not to fight.  Did you see us?  You know it was possible with that low visibility setting to go right past someone while staring nervously at the artificial horizon?

Viper I apologise for not clearing with you, but I sent a copy of your orders to Doobs at his private email, just to clear up the misconception that is growing here that you didn't defend.  I am thinking perhaps you should post them just to end this nonsense once and for all.
I get really really tired of selective realism disguised as a desire to make bombers easier to kill.

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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2007, 07:57:43 PM »
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TheBug
I will respond forever if necessary to ensure that I am not cheaply dismissed by some smug one-line ingrate who is set on causing trouble.  I bent a hand to help.  It has been bitten from the moment I extended it.
 


 Like it or not, you've been dismissed.  However Bug nailed it. I was replying to Viper and teasing Viper not you.  Sorry the world doesn't revolve around you, but if it makes you happy go right ahead with name calling and implications of others being trouble makers. It's comical to watch you display the very traits you beat everyone else up for each post you make. The fact you are oblivious to your own behavior while calling me a retard and an ingrate only illustrates your own smugness. I have not stooped to calling you or anyone else a name. You however can't seem to express yourself without name calling. You're ethier wound too tight, or you're a victim of your own self importance. Ethier way you really are funnier each post. :rofl

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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2007, 08:44:23 PM »
Like it or not you've been exposed as a liar.
I get really really tired of selective realism disguised as a desire to make bombers easier to kill.

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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2007, 08:52:36 PM »
Guys this was not my intent in posting a AXIS AAR to start this.

  This started with my congrads to the AXIS side for a great turn out and efforts made by our side.  It was intended to provide insight as to AXIS planning and exacution of a mission so that all could learn from it and make the game better.  I did not intent for it to turn into a e-mail sluggin match between the AXIS and ALLIED sides.

  I did not take any comments personnely in any manner.  I appreciate Dantoo's comments on my preformance and I dont mind my Operations Orders being sent to anyone.  Thanks also to WaXman from the AK's as well for his comments and thoughts, they were right on.

  Enough said let this be the last comment on this thread.

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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2007, 09:05:10 PM »
No problem Viper. You made a good AAR , sorry for the joke I assumed you'd be along way before now to get even. I'm an old 325th guy , and I thought one of the Checkertails might send ya back after me 2x4. ;)

 My question was really aimed at the CM's, I hate TBM missions and if if we get assigned one and could take F4U's or F6F's instead I'd be all for that. You used the planes available to dish out as much punishment as possible.
In fact the mission lived up to the 325th motto. "Locate and Liquidate.":aok

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