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Offline nirvana

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« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2007, 05:35:17 PM »
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Hmmm...I wonder how long until the Trademark lawsuits start?

Cisco/Linksys has owned the name "iPhone" for it's internet-based phones since 1996, and another company has been using the "iPhone" Brand-name for an IP based phone service (iphone.com) for awhile now as well.

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You're ahead of the game sir!  Cisco says they are going to sue in federal court http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070110/ap_on_hi_te/cisco_apple
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« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2007, 06:31:23 PM »
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Do you have one of the devices we see on TV that calls the EMT if you fall down too? Clapper installed yet? :D
Nope, I do not see that as being useful as I am still motive.

For ths cost of that option I figure it was worth it.  I do like technology which is useful to me.  Besides, it came with a GPS tracker which lowered my car insurance a bunch.  Overall the option will pay for itself in 3 years, even if I do not have a break down.

Kind of made sense to me.
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« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2007, 06:45:26 PM »
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...Apple Computers... settling with making substandard computers...


Which Macs have you owned or used?
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« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2007, 07:06:58 PM »
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I guess I dunt get it, but then I dunt get iPods either.

And Mak, I love technology when it is useful.  I just do not see the usefullness of this.  Of course, I dunt see the usefullness of iPods either.


I'm with you Skuzzy - hype just doesn't impress me.  Why the hell would I want to keep music on my phone?  And spend $500 for the privledge?  Then when I lose the phone (or it breaks - cause it all breaks eventually folks), I can buy another one and re-buy all the music I had on the stupid thing.  NO THANKS.  I'll just keep my CD collection, and rip them into mp3s myself when needed.

I still bust on Verizon for V-cast phones - who the hell wants to watch TV on a 1" screen?  

Latest news tho - Cisco suing Apple for trademark infringement - turns out they have the tm on iphone  ROFL.  Hype drives technology, and lawsuits follow like a towed glider.

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« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2007, 02:11:09 AM »
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Originally posted by CptA
Hmmm...I wonder how long until the Trademark lawsuits start?

Cisco/Linksys has owned the name "iPhone" for it's internet-based phones since 1996, and another company has been using the "iPhone" Brand-name for an IP based phone service (iphone.com) for awhile now as well.

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it has started
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« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2007, 03:09:07 AM »
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I turn off my cell phone when I am in the car.

And if my car breaks down, I just press the 'help' button and let it call for road side assistance.  It even does that automatically if I am in an accident which required the air bags to deploy.

My Wife is always far ahead of me in what is needed at the house, so all I could do is insult her by calling her to remind her.

Like I said, a cell phone really does not do a thing for me, but I do have one.  It is more for the benefot of others, rather than myself.


Ok you have a fancy 'help' button in your car. Did you ever try it? :D  

If not, how can you be sure it even works as promised? ...

Car breakage aside. What if you go mountain hiking, break your legs and lie helpless 500 yards from your car? Or witness an accident, will you use the help button to call car repair service to save the victim(s)? :p

As you see, there are a million scenarios where a cell phone can save yours or someone elses lives. Ever notice that in the movies nobody ever has a cell phone? Why is that? Because anyone realizes they wouldn't be getting into such trouble if they could call help.
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« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2007, 03:15:16 AM »
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« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2007, 06:27:31 AM »
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Ok you have a fancy 'help' button in your car. Did you ever try it? :D  

If not, how can you be sure it even works as promised? ...

Car breakage aside. What if you go mountain hiking, break your legs and lie helpless 500 yards from your car? Or witness an accident, will you use the help button to call car repair service to save the victim(s)? :p

As you see, there are a million scenarios where a cell phone can save yours or someone elses lives. Ever notice that in the movies nobody ever has a cell phone? Why is that? Because anyone realizes they wouldn't be getting into such trouble if they could call help.
The fancy help button was an option I purchased just to get the GPS locator so I could cut my theft insurance by 50%.  I consider that a practical option which has immediate usefulness.  I hope I never need it.

And once I get off the beaten trail, I have no cell signal.  So carrying the phone around while doing many activities would be just more stuff to keep up with.  Ever see how fast a cell phone battery will drain when exposed to really cold weather?  I know mine will die within hours.

And if need be, I can press the panic button which calls the police and gives them my location.  If it does not work, then the cell phone will not work either as they all use the same technology to place a call.  I trust the car's system more than I do a cell phone.

The first cell phone I had was a big analog phone.  To this day it was still the best cell phone I ever had.  Since the mad rush to miniaturize the phones, the connection quality has gone down the tubes.  It is very rare to have any call on the phone that does not include the phrase, "Say again, over".

I would truly be concerned if I had to depend on a cell phone for an emergency.
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« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2007, 07:26:30 AM »
That apple phone looks pretty "goofy" to me too.  There's no way in hell I'd ever buy it.  It's the wrong size, the wrong shape, and has the wrong features.

I want a phone that fits into my pocket in such a way that it doesn't bother me, I don't ever worry about cracking the screen, and if I put my car keys in the same pocket it shouldn't ruin the display or dial 911 by itself.

I have never, and probably never will, browse the web from a cellphone.  The closest I'd ever come to that would be using an integrated phone book feature to look up stuff near where I am.  I have a palm pilot and take it with me on the road, but it's all "wrong" for a phone as far as I'm concerned.  The palm phones are simply too big to stick in a pocket when going out to do *whatever*, so I'd never use it just like I never carry my palm pilot with me when I go to parties or to get groceries.  My cellphone goes with me almost everywhere, because it is small and unobtrusive.

For that matter, here is all I want in my phone:

Thin "flip" design with a 3-1 or greater aspect ratio when opened.  Those short wide phones do nothing for me, and sound quality is best if the speaker is near your ear and the mic is near your mouth.  The screen and buttons are protected when closed.
Good battery life.  I'll give up a color screen for an additional 2 hours of talk time anyday.
Good reception and voice quality.  I couldn't care less about any of these other features if the damn thing doesn't function as a phone when I need to talk to someone.
GPS.  Knowing where I am is good, and if integrated with a 911 service it can save your life.
No web browser, but instead a phone book feature that has both name, store type, and "near me" search features.  Like "find a PF Changs near me".

Bonus feature but only if kept REALLY simple:  8 gig MP3 player with a SIMPLE interface like the ipod mini or ipod nano.  No stupid tiny videos, no color screen, just music and playlists like my ipod mini.

I don't even need or want bluetooth, PIM, calendar, or any of those other features.  I'm not a road warrior even though I travel TDY on business a couple times a month.  I do some work at home and use a real computer (with dual monitors...) to do my work because real computers are designed to do that better.  For a phone, I want something that can slip in my pocket and be the best freaking TELEPHONE, first and foremost.  If it lets me leave my gps, phone book, and mp3 player at home, then that's a bonus.

Texting is for children and the unemployed...  What a freaking time waster. I will argue that even "pro" road warriors and executives who use blackberrys are not really optimizing their time, because it is a constant distraction and it dilutes the attention they spend on anything, all the time.  The most effective managers I've met do not use blackberrys and they also hate powerpoint presentations.  They want information fast and on demand, but they also focus intently on what they're doing and when they're doing something else, they don't fiddle with email.

Some people swear by their crackberries but I am convinced that a great number of those people are fooling themselves into thinking they are being more effective.  Some jobs can be greatly enhanced by mobile connectivity but I think most people do it because they either think it's cool, or they WANT to be distracted because they hate whatever else it is they have to do.  I am personally far more productive if I can focus on what I'm doing, take pen/paper notes, and then sit down at a real computer (or my awesome IBM T41p laptop when I'm on the road) to check email and do other work that requires a computer.

Apple's phone... It is almost the exact opposite of what I want in a mobile phone.
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« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2007, 07:41:09 AM »
Skuzzy,

Regarding relying on a cellphone in an emergency...

Remember I taught USAF woodlands survival at the  academy...  

I consider a cellphone a great piece of emergency survival gear.  As a matter of fact, when cellphones first came out and I realized what a good tool they were, I added one to my car survival kit and made my parents buy one too.  They were minimum-service plans, intended only for emergency use.  A great deal of survival training goes into effective signaling and making your position and status known, and cellphones are perfect for that in almost the entire country where most people might find themselves in trouble.

The payoff - I've used my cellphone to call in 2 major injury car wrecks on the road and my wife has called in help from relatively remote areas twice when she ran out of gas.  My parents have both called for assistance while on the road.  A squadron-mate of mine rolled his car while on the I-14 in the UK (a major highway) between Cambridge and RAF Lakenheath, and nobody stopped to help for over 30 min.  Finally another USAF servicemember stopped and used his cellphone to call for an ambulance.

Yea it's just a gadget but it's #4 on my list of critical car emergency survival gear, right behind a wool blanket, fire starting gear (usually flares), and water.  Even when hiking and doing other outdoors stuff, I have routinely gone out with a cellphone instead of a GPS because although I have never been lost (yay boyscout orienteering!), I have twice had to either go over a mile in rugged terrain for help or assist an incapacitated person more than a mile back to camp.  In both cases, a cellphone in my possession would have resulted in almost immediate vehicle assistance.
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« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2007, 08:06:15 AM »
At this point I don't get it either.

What does it do that is so great?

I have a razor phone that has a voice gps navigations system that works as good as any... problem is... It's $10 a month.

It makes phone calls.

It has a camera with an sd card.. the camera will take ok pictures.. fine for an emergency.

It is small.

That is all I want in a phone.   Does this thing do any of those things better?

I don't want to try to get online with anything as small or cumbersome as a phone.... I don't want to listen to music on one.    I most certainly do not want to type on one.

So what does this thing do that would make it worthwhile?

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« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2007, 12:35:38 PM »
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Holy snap!

rubish battery time, but this is the most exciting gadget ever..

http://www.apple.com/iphone/


It's all fun and games until someone slings their iPhone into the TV set while playing video tennis.

Wait, what?

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« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2007, 05:47:24 PM »
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it has started


Oh noes did Steve Jobs lie to nilsen again :)

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« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2007, 06:05:53 PM »
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Oh noes did Steve Jobs lie to nilsen again :)



I havent talked to him.

Apple and cisco have been discussing the name thing for years and it will get settled. I am tho suprised that cisco and apple had not settled it in time for the launch.

Steve Jobs btw is the slickest guy out there and even worse than Bill Gates. I cant stand either of them.

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« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2007, 06:40:31 PM »
i am sure it will sell well to 15 year old males, who will immediatly see the use in having internet browsing on a pocket sized device.