Author Topic: An Inconvenient Truth (Read 1101 times)

Vudak · « **on:** January 11, 2007, 05:19:28 PM »

I really, really, really need to fix my computer in the basement, because sitting here in the family room, with the family watching "An Inconvenient Truth," is driving me crazy.

Something about Gore's voice just makes my head feel like it's going to explode.

Oh, and tip for him... You think there's a problem with global warming, and actually want to get something done about it? DON'T HAVE AN EX-CANDIDATE FOR EITHER PARTY ENDORSE IT. ESPECIALLY NOT AN ALSO-RAN.

/rant off

rpm · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2007, 01:06:33 AM »

Too bad nobody will listen to Al. I think he's on to something this time.

zorstorer · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2007, 06:15:44 AM »

We need to get him back in the basement to develop the faster than light internet...then we wont see nearly as many "ramming" threads

Ghosth · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:02:26 AM »

I recently watched it, and was frankly quite surprised.

I don't agree with all his conclusions. And in a couple of cases I suspect his statistics and data were fudged a bit.

What was impressive to me was the scale of the glacier melt off.
Showing Glacier National park before and after pictures with 20 - 30 years apart was frankly a bit scary.

Great data, nice presentation, but if he'd really wanted to make a difference he'd of hired someone to do it instead of doing it himself. That makes it more about politics & less about global warming.

The really impressive thing to me was the co2 and temp data from polar ice cores going back the last 6 ice ages. WOW!

The conclusion that he missed, its that it IS a cyclic problem, on a really HUGE scale. And yes we are adding too it, and making it worse, but it won't continue climbing forever, its going to tip the other way. Each ice age clearly showed a climb of co2 & temp peaking then plunging very very quickly into a new ice age.
Then a long slow climb out until it peaked again.

That plunge is what I'm worried about, not the average temp of the USA being 130 degrees in 10 years, or all the polar ice caps melting. But we could be sliding into the next ice age at virtually any moment.

lazs2 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:05:14 AM »

I worry about the next ice age and all the selfish people driving prius's.

I will do my best to slow the coming ice age with my hot rods and fireplace.

lazs

Eagler · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:17:44 AM »

if goron closed his pie hole and stop releasing so much hot air, I think that would help the polar caps ...

Halo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2007, 01:50:43 PM »

Yes, recalling pervasive emissions around the globe, no wonder CFC is a concern (Cattle Flatulence Control).

republic · « **Reply #7 on:** January 12, 2007, 02:23:38 PM »

I thought it was an excellent documentary, paced very well, and interesting to watch.

I suppose only time will really end the debate on global warming. Either we'll look back and laugh at all the fuss, or look back and laugh at our ignorance.

Edit: I kant spel

Airscrew · « **Reply #8 on:** January 12, 2007, 02:30:40 PM »

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Originally posted by republic
I thought it was an excelled documentary, paced very well, and interesting to watch.

documentary? I filed it under science fiction

JB88 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2007, 02:46:14 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm
Too bad nobody will listen to Al. I think he's on to something this time.

oh, i don't know. the events that he was speaking at looked pretty sold out to me.

i wonder how many people go to listen to some of the blowhards here speak when they get their butts up off of these boards and take their own proactive stances in the universe

Yknurd · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2007, 07:57:38 PM »

I've always considered Gore an inconvenient idiot.

JB88 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:25:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Yknurd
I've always considered Gore an inconvenient idiot.

and i am sure he spends alot of time worrying about that.

rpm · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2007, 11:21:13 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
oh, i don't know. the events that he was speaking at looked pretty sold out to me.

i wonder how many people go to listen to some of the blowhards here speak when they get their butts up off of these boards and take their own proactive stances in the universe

That will never happen. They are either soo alergic to sunlight or they are afraid to get too far from their gun cabinet to make a proactive stance. It's much easier for them to sit at the computer and pretend they know what they're talking about.

mussie · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2007, 11:32:07 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm
That will never happen. They are either soo alergic to sunlight or they are afraid to get too far from their gun cabinet to make a proactive stance. It's much easier for them to sit at the computer and pretend they know what they're talking about.

BWAHAHAHAHA

oboe · « **Reply #14 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:17:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Ghosth
I recently watched it, and was frankly quite surprised.

I don't agree with all his conclusions. And in a couple of cases I suspect his statistics and data were fudged a bit.

What was impressive to me was the scale of the glacier melt off.
Showing Glacier National park before and after pictures with 20 - 30 years apart was frankly a bit scary.

Great data, nice presentation, but if he'd really wanted to make a difference he'd of hired someone to do it instead of doing it himself. That makes it more about politics & less about global warming.

The really impressive thing to me was the co2 and temp data from polar ice cores going back the last 6 ice ages. WOW!

The conclusion that he missed, its that it IS a cyclic problem, on a really HUGE scale. And yes we are adding too it, and making it worse, but it won't continue climbing forever, its going to tip the other way. Each ice age clearly showed a climb of co2 & temp peaking then plunging very very quickly into a new ice age.
Then a long slow climb out until it peaked again.

That plunge is what I'm worried about, not the average temp of the USA being 130 degrees in 10 years, or all the polar ice caps melting. But we could be sliding into the next ice age at virtually any moment.

If you haven't seen it already - you might like this movie. Special effects are first rate, and it's topic is what you're concerned about.

The Day After Tomorrow

Of course, according to the 650,000 year record of data, we are already passed the time when we should've been plunged into another ice age. We are in uncharted territory, CO2-wise. The atmospheric concentration of Carbon Dioxide has never been above 300 ppm in 650,000 years. We're at 380 ppm and climbing exponentially. Or do you believe those are the numbers Gore fudged?