Author Topic: Warping like Star Trek (Read 4096 times)

USRanger · « **on:** January 15, 2007, 03:18:46 PM »

Ever since getting a new pc last week, I'm warping all over every time I play.

AMD 64X2 5000+
2 Gigs Ram
GeForce 7600
Cable internet

I've downloaded the 2 patches from the Hardware forums pertaining to AMD dual processors, but I'm still all over the place. I even got a new cable modem and no difference. It's weird, even when I have my settings at a cutoff of 60 fps, I still get 126ish fps and everything is moving real slow. Then I slingshot into overdrive and start warping all over the place. It's so bad, I can't even come close to engaging a con. Help!

Anymore info that might be needed, let me know. Thx in advance.

NOT · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:17:53 PM »

did u d'load amd dual core patch? it is stickied at top of hardware forum.

USRanger · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:16:51 PM »

Yep, sure did. I've even tried it in Windows 98 emulation mode. I play 3 other online games and this is the only one I'm having trouble with, so it's not my connection. I downloaded both the patches that the sticky refers to. The strange thing is, I've only experienced the spinning clipboard once, but that was AFTER I downloaded the patches. Only happened once. I'm running hi-res graphics with sliders all the way on detail and am maxing out fps. My refresh rate is 75 Htz. That's why I don't understand why I keep zooming up to 120-130 fps, and it's like everything starts moving in slo-mo, then fps goes back down to 75 and it's warp city baby! This sux. I went from a 1.5 Ghz P4 to a 2.8 Ghz AMD & now I can't play the game, which is the main reason I bought a new pc in the first place. I know all about turning off background processes(I use FS Autostart). So I don't know what the deal is. Very, very frustrating.

Schatzi · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:23:49 PM »

Ranger, this might just be a coincidence as well. Theres been lots of issues with Warping/bad connections going on in the last week.

USRanger · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:45:02 PM »

I hope so. I just tested it again for the 1st time today. Still the same. I got a film of it now. If my kids let me have some free time, I'll make a .wmv out of it for viewing. Even with the film playing at 150%, it still looks in slo-mo. It's weird. I can be all alone out to sea getting 74 fps, then all of a sudden for no reason, I shoot up to 120-130 fps(but looks slo-mo). Then I start warping all over the place. Then I return to 75 fps for a few seconds, then rinse & repeat. With my new cable modem, my connection is better than ever. Really stumped here.

The Fugitive · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2007, 07:34:17 PM »

Is this happening both online and offline? If only online run a ping plot to see whats going on with the network. If its offline too, then post your Dxdiag here. They need to see the first third or so to check for drivers and conflicts and things.

Also seing its a new box, check to see how many processes you have running (cntrl, alt, delete, click on the processes tab). 20-30 are what your shooting for. New boxes sometimes come with all kinds of extra junk getting in the way. Watch the CPU usage at the bottom of the processes window. With nothing running, from your desktop you should see it only go up a couple percent.

Well its a couple of things to check.

ROC · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2007, 08:41:44 PM »

I've found that machines coming straight out of the box are usually not tuned for gaming.

hit the msconfig and start up, shut down all the worthless stuff that auto loads into the background.

Then, run spyware on it. Yes, I know, New and all, but I get spyware just going through the Install process of windows lol

USRanger · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2007, 09:21:27 PM »

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/15/2007, 22:15:56
Machine name: ALYSSA
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: RF243AA-ABA m7640n
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 255MB used, 3683MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7600 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0391&SUBSYS_201F19F1&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9131 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/1/2006 17:22:00, 4529408 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 6/1/2006 17:22:00, 3925920 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-40D1-11CF-EA59-150000C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0391
SubSys ID: 0x201F19F1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

How do I run a ping plot? Never had to do it before. If it was my connection, wouldn't all my games have probs., not just AHII?

USRanger · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2007, 09:27:50 PM »

Tested it offline. No warping, but a new problem. All of the icons looked like they were vibrating and the + and - beside the distance number kept going back and forth about 10 times per second, like +-+-+-+- back and forth real fast, even tho I was closing in. Good grief, why do I always seem to have the crazy problems? I run 2 different spyware programs everyday before gaming. Nothing there. I have 30 processes running, with 5 being my firewall & antivirus. These are the same fw & av I had on my last pc, with the exact same settings, so I don't think the problem is there. Only AHII is giving me problems.

USRanger · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2007, 09:46:34 PM »

Target Name: http://www.hitechcreations.com
IP: 12.193.161.229
Date/Time: 1/15/2007 10:45:10 PM

1 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 5 ms [10.44.64.1]
2 8 ms 8 ms 6 ms 8 ms srp1-1.limaoh1-rtr2.woh.rr.com [24.29.161.98]
3 13 ms 24 ms 14 ms 14 ms son3-0-2.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com [65.25.128.157]
4 21 ms 14 ms N/A 14 ms te-3-1.car1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net [4.78.216.9]
5 22 ms * * N/A ae-5-5.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.132.206]
6 25 ms 25 ms 88 ms 22 ms ae-24-56.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.168]
7 21 ms 30 ms 21 ms 227 ms [192.205.33.209]
8 48 ms 47 ms 52 ms 48 ms tbr2-p033301.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.26]
9 51 ms 50 ms 50 ms 51 ms tbr2-cl7.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.46]
10 50 ms 46 ms 46 ms 47 ms tbr1-cl24.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.9.141]
11 49 ms 46 ms 48 ms 49 ms tbr2-cl6.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.10.90]
12 44 ms 52 ms 46 ms 45 ms gbr6-p40.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.90]
13 47 ms 54 ms 45 ms 45 ms ar13-p3110.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.17.13]
14 50 ms 49 ms 53 ms 55 ms [12.116.144.38]
15 55 ms 51 ms 55 ms 56 ms beta.hitechcreations.com [12.193.161.229]

Ping statistics for http://www.hitechcreations.com
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 56ms, Average = 54ms

Schatzi · « **Reply #10 on:** January 16, 2007, 03:24:08 AM »

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Originally posted by USRanger
Tested it offline. No warping, but a new problem. All of the icons looked like they were vibrating and the + and - beside the distance number kept going back and forth about 10 times per second, like +-+-+-+- back and forth real fast, even tho I was closing in. Good grief, why do I always seem to have the crazy problems? I run 2 different spyware programs everyday before gaming. Nothing there. I have 30 processes running, with 5 being my firewall & antivirus. These are the same fw & av I had on my last pc, with the exact same settings, so I don't think the problem is there. Only AHII is giving me problems.

Downgrade the driver for your Nvidia... the 9x.xx series is causing all kinds of havoc with the lower cards. I have a 7600GT as well (PCIe) and run it on the 84.66 driver version.

Then, to test if it still might be the Dual Core issue, right click the aceshigh.exe file in your game install, select Properties and put it on Win98-compatibility mode. That will force it to run single core.... if the problem is gone then, youll have to relook into the Dual core patch stuff.

I cannot see it in your dxdiag (you cut that part off), but check your hardware accelleration level in the sounds tab. While this has probably nothing to do with your current issues, it needs to be set to STANDARD, not FULL.

USRanger · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2007, 05:25:48 AM »

I checked it in 98 compatibility mode, still warp city. Sound acceleration is at 75%:(

NHawk · « **Reply #12 on:** January 16, 2007, 06:10:36 AM »

I have to agree with it being the driver. I upgraded drivers and had the exact same icon problem you describe. Rolled them back and problem gone.

Also, I installed another hard drive and operating system to use for games only. I boot to that drive when I play AH and only have 16 processes running. AH is smooth as silk and high frame rates at all times.

Seing as how it's an HP system I'll bet you have over 30, probably closer to 50 processes running after boot. Trim them down.

Schatzi · « **Reply #13 on:** January 16, 2007, 06:11:08 AM »

OK Ranger. Im on my second coffee and afraid ill need a little clarification

. Sorry.

When you go into OFFLINE mode, you obviously do not have a warping issue... but you get the "vibrations" things, correct?

When you go ONLINE, you have lag/warp problems, but do not get the "vibrations"?

Did the 98 comp mode or driver downgrade fix the "vibrations" in OFFLINE and is your only problem the warps now? If yes, I wouldnt worry too much about it for the time being. There have been loads of problems and complaints with connection woes in the last week. Some of it has to do with the server memory issues Skuzzy mentioned.

A PS: on your pingplot. The one you pinged is the BBS server, not the game server. To trace down arena issues, you need to ping 206.16.60.39 for any of the main arenas and 206.16.60.38 for all other arenas.

USRanger · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2007, 02:52:24 PM »

I'll try changing drivers. The 98 comp mode did not fix the vibrations offline, or the warping online. I took it down from hires to 512 textures, but that didn't help either. Thx for the help so far. I'll keep ya updated.