Author Topic: Are American posters on this BBS a minority (Read 2339 times)

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 17, 2007, 03:39:54 PM »

Every where in the world you will find morons. This is a universal constant.

It's just that the US education system is degraded because of the conservative movements that are graduated, while every where else in the world graduates damn near rabid socialists. Hell, it's even done by our own liberals in our own country.

With the exception of inner city schools (which are ****ed anyway), there is nothing wrong with our public education system.

The best way to degrade a political position, and the reasoning for such, is to insult the base education.

VooWho · « **Reply #31 on:** January 17, 2007, 04:28:45 PM »

As a current student in High School I can say that my teachers do teach, and I do learn something new, but they teach it so boring that students fall asleep. Also teachers talk about (here in Oklahoma) that they don't get paid much, and I think this also has to do with the way our teachers are teaching. Teachers need to make learning fun like they do in the movies. I fall asleep in class sometimes because the teacher just talks in a mono voice for 50min. "During the 1950s, threw the 1980s the United States and the USSR....YAWWNNN....where in the middle of the cold war....." Just a mono voice with a yawn. Some of my teachers are fun, because they do make the class fun when there not teaching, but when they start lecturing, its like time stops, and nothing every happens and it stays the same.

I believe that if the teachers got paid more, and we could do more things (because schools are stricked on things) then maybe we all could learn something. I have seen teachers teach little, then someone comes into class to see how they teach, and they teach and the class learns something, then the next day its YAWNNN! In my science classes we barely do any hands on things. I love to learn when we are up, and moving and doing hands on activities. I can't just seat down 50min, listen to a teacher and take notes for the test next week. Thats not learning, that just saying I don't want to stand up, tell you how and why these things happen, then ask you questions on how these things could have been different, or how if this didn't happen how could this have changed history? There just saying I just want to give you answers so you can study them, pass the class and I can B***h about my pay.

My parents ask my about my grades. I well say I don't make the best of grades (but I do pass) they ask me "Why did you get a C in this class" I tell them "they don't make the class intersting. How do I seat for hours listening to teachers talk mono tone about a topic, or get asigned homework to take notes then take a quiz the next day. I can't describe it. Its just to complecated to describe in words, the way teachers teach.

How do they teach in Europe?

Vulcan · « **Reply #32 on:** January 17, 2007, 04:50:33 PM »

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Originally posted by VooWho
and I knew probably 90% of those questions.

Now you're scaring me.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #33 on:** January 17, 2007, 04:57:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Brenjen
I agree. Like I said, I'm no math whiz but I know how those chains work, ten cents off & you're in a world of $*^@ & they don't care what your excuse is. The restaurants themselves foster that "just trust the computer in the register & do what it says" attitude.

Have you looked at one lately? They don't even ring up individual items anymore, they just push the button with the picture of what you want on it. It's not surprising they can't count or read.

That is why I never order by a number on the menu. I tell them the individual items I want. Hehe.

The restaurants had to go to ICON driven registers. What else can you do when over 30% of high school graduates have absolutely abysmal reading comprehension skills.

Bluedog · « **Reply #34 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:03:25 PM »

I bet your boring English teacher would have fits if he/she saw that post voohoo.

The vid is a laugh, but those guys are right, you could do the same thing in Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth etc and get the same kind of results if you kept looking long enough.
You probably wouldn't get away with the "I'm John Howard, PM of Oz" bit though.
Getting people to mention New Zealand as part of the Axis of Evil would be easier but.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #35 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:34:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Rino
Way back in the stone age when I went to high school, a buddy of mine
claimed his father fired a 50mm machinegun from the hip. He continued to
claim it was 50mm even after I suggested that even a 50 caliber mg would
be virtually impossible to fire from the hip.

Would have liked to see the poor SOB who had to carry the ammo for
that 50mm .

Somebody saw Rambo that day. And that was a M60, of course.

john9001 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:58:41 PM »

maybe if teachers worked 12 months a year they would get paid more.

Rolex · « **Reply #37 on:** January 17, 2007, 06:23:54 PM »

Since when have students been excused from having any responsbility to read and learn? Teachers are not entertainers. Everything you need to know for a course should be in the textbook. Read it and think about it. If you don't understand it then dig some more until you do understand it. You can find the answer to darn near anything on the internet. If that still doesn't work, ask your teacher.

I hope you don't expect your future jobs and bosses to be entertaining and do your work for you?

nirvana · « **Reply #38 on:** January 17, 2007, 06:24:49 PM »

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Originally posted by VooWho
As a current student in High School I can say that my teachers do teach, and I do learn something new

I don't:p In all seriousness though, I didn't even watch the video and just wanted to up my post count.

Vulcan · « **Reply #39 on:** January 17, 2007, 07:15:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Bluedog
The vid is a laugh, but those guys are right, you could do the same thing in Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth etc and get the same kind of results if you kept looking long enough.

I agree. Australians are stupid.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #40 on:** January 17, 2007, 08:55:37 PM »

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Originally posted by VooWho Not trying to be mean or racist here but I have a story. I only have $5.00 and I head off to McDonalds. (before I tell the rest of the story, Notice how alot of cashier have to look at the computer to figure out the change. Okay sir your total is $4.00, Okay you got a 5....Long pause....looks at screen, heres your change sir) So I pull up to the drive threw and I get the operator. "Hello welcome to McDonalds how may I help you. "Uh yea I like the #3 (Egg McMuffin), 2 Hash Browns, and a Milk. Thats all" "Okay you order a #3 with 2 Hash Browns, and a Milk. Your total is $4.50, come to the first window. (here comes the part you might think I'm racists) I pull up to the first window. Its a white guy in his late 30s early 40s. Hes about to get my change, and then he says hold on. A hispanic man comes to him and says something like help. I say okay. The man comes back in like 1min and says "Sorry sir for the wait," and he shakes his head like OMG dumb people I work with. (that kinda look) He hands me my change and I move to the next window. When I got to the next window I said to myself. Oh this is the McDonalds with all Hispanics who don't speak or know little English I better check my stuff that I got the right order. I look inside the window again, and I see that there all looking at the screen of the orders. Hmmm I said to myself. I guess they can't get it wrong they might have it in spanish. I get my food and drive home. When I open my bag, I see 2 egg McMuffins and 1 hash brown, and no milk. I say to my self WTF! They got it wrong and they had a screen in front of them, and I was one out of two cars in line, OMG! But then I relised that the McMuffin was like $3.25 and I got 2. Hmm hell yes I got a better deal. So in the end I came out okay, but no milk

"Whose house is of glass, must not throw stones at another." - George Herbert (1651).

Vudak · « **Reply #41 on:** January 17, 2007, 10:20:02 PM »

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Originally posted by VooWho
As a current student in High School I can say that my teachers do teach, and I do learn something new, but they teach it so boring that students fall asleep. Also teachers talk about (here in Oklahoma) that they don't get paid much, and I think this also has to do with the way our teachers are teaching. Teachers need to make learning fun like they do in the movies. I fall asleep in class sometimes because the teacher just talks in a mono voice for 50min. "During the 1950s, threw the 1980s the United States and the USSR....YAWWNNN....where in the middle of the cold war....." Just a mono voice with a yawn. Some of my teachers are fun, because they do make the class fun when there not teaching, but when they start lecturing, its like time stops, and nothing every happens and it stays the same.

I believe that if the teachers got paid more, and we could do more things (because schools are stricked on things) then maybe we all could learn something. I have seen teachers teach little, then someone comes into class to see how they teach, and they teach and the class learns something, then the next day its YAWNNN! In my science classes we barely do any hands on things. I love to learn when we are up, and moving and doing hands on activities. I can't just seat down 50min, listen to a teacher and take notes for the test next week. Thats not learning, that just saying I don't want to stand up, tell you how and why these things happen, then ask you questions on how these things could have been different, or how if this didn't happen how could this have changed history? There just saying I just want to give you answers so you can study them, pass the class and I can B***h about my pay.

My parents ask my about my grades. I well say I don't make the best of grades (but I do pass) they ask me "Why did you get a C in this class" I tell them "they don't make the class intersting. How do I seat for hours listening to teachers talk mono tone about a topic, or get asigned homework to take notes then take a quiz the next day. I can't describe it. Its just to complecated to describe in words, the way teachers teach.

How do they teach in Europe?

Well, VooHoo, get used to it. With No Child Left Behind teachers are getting more and more curtailed. Teach the test, teach the test!

Relax though, once you get to college you'll find there are some interesting professors who play by their own rules when it comes to teaching, and as it turns out, their rules work.

moot · « **Reply #42 on:** January 18, 2007, 02:57:33 AM »

Logic, math, and philosophy = automatic, self-sufficient critical thinking faculties.
It's the basis to everything else that follows, be it in liberal arts like music, or applied sciences like engineering.

And IMO the basic problem>solution thinking you are taught to continually assess in loops, in engineering disciplines, in other words, the problem solving approach, applies to anything and everything. I don't understand why it isn't recognized as such.

lazs2 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 18, 2007, 08:22:23 AM »

john... how dare you suggest that our teachers work full time for full time pay...

It is like peeing on a statue of the saints or something.

lazs

Vudak · « **Reply #44 on:** January 18, 2007, 09:36:33 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
john... how dare you suggest that our teachers work full time for full time pay...

It is like peeing on a statue of the saints or something.

lazs

I know! That'd be like a construction worker taking unemployment during the winter