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Offline tedrbr

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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2007, 05:58:52 PM »
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It wasn't a laser.


Yeah, sounds like two different systems being discussed here.

For space intercept, a trash can full of bearings and explosives will work well.  They have the launchers, can get the tech from western sources easily enough, and Red Flag Linux can handle the number crunching easily.  

You can use KKV's (Kinetic Kill Vehicles) to kill a sat too, but not sure if Chinese will bother with this level of sophistication.... US and western powers have more to lose in Low Earth Orbit to random shotgun-like debris than they do.

IIRC, Chinese also working of a ground based laser that can knock out orbiting satellites..... anything from blinding them to damaging solar panels, communications systems.... whatever works to shut it down.  This is something the Russians had in the late 70's or early 80's.... theirs looked similar to a space observatory.  I seem to remember a story about our sats being lit up by their systems while they were being tested.

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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2007, 06:00:53 PM »
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It wasn't a laser.





     Was wondering what a kinetic kill laser would look like :)
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2007, 06:05:24 PM »
chinas dont need 2 go 2 teh mooon because there is no1 there  to get takeout lololol usa did needed 2 go there bcauz there wasnt the flag there and now it is thar but cihna doesnt even hav a flag so why bothr?

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2007, 06:08:27 PM »
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Was wondering what a kinetic kill laser would look like :)


it would be liek a lazr with a projectile, works like how solar sailing works.
slo r8 of fier, but very good muzzle velositys:O :O :O :O
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2007, 06:08:40 PM »
china do have flag , i think it's red or something..

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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2007, 06:16:14 PM »
NOE U R JUST THINKING OF THE MENUS AT THY'RE RESTRANTS OOOPppp sry all caps

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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2007, 07:03:08 PM »
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It wasn't a laser.


I posted the China laser Vs US satellites story a while back:



http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=188560

China Attempted To Blind U.S. Satellites With Laser

Hmmm, interesting...they are probing our capabilities and their own.

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http://www.defensenews.com/story.ph...1&C=america

China has fired high-power lasers at U.S. spy satellites flying over its territory in what experts see as a test of Chinese ability to blind the spacecraft, according to sources.
It remains unclear how many times the ground-based laser was tested against U.S. spacecraft or whether it was successful.
But the combination of China’s efforts and advances in Russian satellite jamming capabilities illustrate vulnerabilities to the U.S. space network are at the core of U.S. Air Force plans to develop new space architectures and highly classified systems, according to sources............

In the same thread, Nilsen posted an update to the story that revealed a few more interesting details.
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Nilsen:

Here is an update:

"US claims that China has used lasers to attack satellites

China has used high-energy lasers to interfere with US satellites, according to a US Army space-warfare specialist. Tests have been reported previously but it is now confirmed that the laser attacks were at least partially effective.

Command Sergeant Major David Lady of the Joint Functional Combat Command for Integrated Missile Defense, said at the Strategic Space & Defense conference in Omaha on 12 October that the attacks were detected after US satellite operators - most likely users of the National Reconnaissance Office's secret imaging satellites - observed that the satellites occasionally failed to perform over China.

"There had been times when we wondered at the sudden decline in effectiveness as the satellites passed over China," CSM Lady said. Sensors at the Reagan Test Site on Kwajalein atoll in the South Pacific were tasked with tracking the satellites and observing any unusual phenomena. "We sensed the projection of beams against the spacecraft and could identify the streams of photons," CSM Lady said.

The Kwajalein data confirmed that the Chinese appeared to have "some level of confidence" in their laser countermeasures system, according to CSM Lady."

Source: http://www.janes.com/aerospace/mili...61016_1_n.shtml
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2007, 07:09:01 PM »
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I recall back when china launched their commie-nauts into space people laughed at how China caught up with 1960's space technology.

It looks like they made twenty year jump in space technology in three years.


I guess those contributions they made to Clinton/Gore for classified missile technology is paying off big.

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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2007, 07:24:40 PM »
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chinas dont need 2 go 2 teh mooon because there is no1 there  to get takeout lololol usa did needed 2 go there bcauz there wasnt the flag there and now it is thar but cihna doesnt even hav a flag so why bothr?


Not that I'm trying to tell you what to do Debonair, but if some form of English is your first, or even second, language..... were I you, I'd hunt down and kill every teacher I ever had.....

.... but that's me.

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2007, 08:09:16 PM »
Do the Chinese have anythnig like this?

Hi-powered mobile laser

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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2007, 09:33:11 PM »
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Was wondering what a kinetic kill laser would look like :)


Well first it will have a shark immediately behind and under it.
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2007, 11:04:29 PM »
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So wait, they really DID all that stuff?????

Or are you taking one very narrow example of their progress and concluding that they've:

 'made a twenty year jump in space technology in three years'



My statement was ambiguous in terms of whether or not "space technology" was a generality to include all space technology or some space technology.  Let me clarify for you.  

The Chines have made twenty year jump in a ****load of space technology.

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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2007, 11:08:28 PM »
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 ****load.


We all know how expert Thrawn is in **** tech.






































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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2007, 11:55:58 PM »
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it would be liek a lazr with a projectile, works like how solar sailing works.
slo r8 of fier, but very good muzzle velositys:O :O :O :O
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     Ahhh...I was thinking they launched the laser into space as a projectile
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2007, 11:56:44 PM »
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Well first it will have a shark immediately behind and under it.
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