Author Topic: Global Warming (Read 16657 times)

Sixpence · « **Reply #330 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:22:21 AM »

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Originally posted by john9001
todays news,.....upper new york state has six FEET of snow on the ground and expect 2 more feet, at one point the snow was falling at the rate of 5 inches per hour. NY officials blame global warming, bush and big oil.

now back to your regular scheduled program.

The waters of the lakes are staying warmer through winter. The warmer the water the more fuel for lake effect snow. Usually by mid January the waters have cooled and the lake effect is, well, less effective. The bigger the difference between the temp of the water and the temp of the air, the greater the rate of evaporation and the greater the rate of snowfall.

What is happening actually makes a statement for warming, not against it.

lazs2 · « **Reply #331 on:** February 10, 2007, 09:26:19 AM »

It's not just happening near water.. we are having a relatively cold winter... we had a very mild summer...

They can't predict next years weather.. I wouldn't get too excieted about what they tell us will happen in 100 years.

lazs

Shuckins · « **Reply #332 on:** February 10, 2007, 09:59:50 AM »

The Jet Stream has dipped far to the south, almost to the Gulf of Mexico. Cold fronts are riding it like a conveyor belt. For a solid month we've had one winter blast right after another; getting a fresh one about every four or five days.

Last summer was supposed to be a record year for hurricanes....it didn't happen.

This winter was supposed to be very mild....that isn't happening either. Record cold and record snowfalls in places as diverse as southern California, Colorado, and New York.

Weather and climate prediction is NOT an exact science, regardless of what climatologists and scientists say to the contrary.

Sixpence · « **Reply #333 on:** February 10, 2007, 10:57:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins
This winter was supposed to be very mild....that isn't happening

That would be here in the east. Didn't get cold til almost February and less than 2 inches of snow. This year the action is in the west. It seems to work that way, if it's active in the west, it's quiet in the east and vice versa.

I love snow, and the lack of has made it one depressing winter. But there is still time for a massive nor'easter:D

Shuckins · « **Reply #334 on:** February 10, 2007, 11:12:09 AM »

"How high is the sno-ow son...
eight feet high and a-risin'..."

Jackal1 · « **Reply #335 on:** February 10, 2007, 12:01:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
Lol, funny:
"#2 Angus is trying to raise cattle in a land of ice instead of the fricken huuuuuuuge state of Texas as intnended."
Angus comes from Scotland and is excellent at adapting to cool climate and rough pasture, typically grasslands. But the Texan's way of doing beef big and cheap is by first growing corn, then feeding in feed lot.
If I was a cow, I'd pick some other place.
(BTW, feeding cattle intensively on starch makes their farts worse for the globe) :D

Hehe.
Feedlots in Texas are not what they used to be. There are still some, mostly in west Texas, but nowhere near the numbers they used to be. None in my area. The last feedlot around here closed some years ago. Most beef cattle operations here of any size , that "feed out" steers, do so on winter wheat grazing, then ship out in late spring.
A lot of the cattle to be fed out from here comercialy are shipped to Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, etc. , etc., where the big commercial beef companies have their feedlot operations and buyers.
In other words, we distribute our global warming cow farts across the nation so that the stars shine bright deep in the heart of Texas.

Angus · « **Reply #336 on:** February 11, 2007, 09:01:20 AM »

So are you basically saying that you have decreased the consumption of crops (corn mostly) for cattle?
A fart is not just a fart, - some stink more, and some are wetter

lazs2 · « **Reply #337 on:** February 11, 2007, 09:35:22 AM »

and all cause "significant" global warming.

Herd a scientist on the radio yesterday explaining that no real scientist believed that second hand smoke was worse than first hand but that sometimes... when it is really important... when the cause is really important... you have to lie to people... if they are not scared they won't do anything.

I thought of angus.

lazs

Mace2004 · « **Reply #338 on:** February 11, 2007, 09:47:58 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
and all cause "significant" global warming.

Herd a scientist on the radio yesterday explaining that no real scientist believed that second hand smoke was worse than first hand but that sometimes... when it is really important... when the cause is really important... you have to lie to people... if they are not scared they won't do anything.

I thought of angus.

lazs

That's the patronizing arrogance of true believers you're talking about Laz and it's all too typical of a host of liberal causes. Treating others as children is precisely the thing that makes them so distastful. The typical excuse that "they're doing it for the children" is really a metaphore for them "doing it for the less intelligent cattle that are the citizenry". Happens sometimes on the right also, there are plenty of doom and gloomers making a living off of fear on that side too, it just seems to be more part of religion on the right....oh, wait, globalwarmingism IS a religion.

storch · « **Reply #339 on:** February 11, 2007, 09:57:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Angus
So are you basically saying that you have decreased the consumption of crops (corn mostly) for cattle?
A fart is not just a fart, - some stink more, and some are wetter

and some heat water up far better

oboe · « **Reply #340 on:** February 11, 2007, 10:37:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins
The Jet Stream has dipped far to the south, almost to the Gulf of Mexico. Cold fronts are riding it like a conveyor belt. For a solid month we've had one winter blast right after another; getting a fresh one about every four or five days.

Last summer was supposed to be a record year for hurricanes....it didn't happen.

This winter was supposed to be very mild....that isn't happening either. Record cold and record snowfalls in places as diverse as southern California, Colorado, and New York.

Weather and climate prediction is NOT an exact science, regardless of what climatologists and scientists say to the contrary.

If you don't mind, please link a quote where scientists claim weather and climate prediction is an EXACT science. I'll be very interested to read it.

I think many people have simply disengaged their brains on this issue.

Shuckins · « **Reply #341 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:21:48 AM »

What? You got to have a LINK for everything and every statement?

Can't you just infer that their statements indicate that they believe they have most if not all of the answers?

The climatologists that support the theory that global warming is due mainly to human influences routinely snub their noses at any scientists that say otherwise.

No arguments or proofs to the contrary can sway them. Indeed, contradictory evidence is often dismissed out of hand without being given serious study.

Can they not, at the very least, study the evidence that the giant nuclear candle affixed so prominently in our sky and currently burning hotter than it has in centuries actually MIGHT be influencing global warming.

No....they can't...because there's no MONEY in it....or influence to be garnered....and nothing that can be done about it.

It is entirely possible that the laws and restrictions being pushed by climatologists and their supporters are being pushed on the public because global warming is a convenient tool for achieving environmental goals that are otherwise unattainable and unpopular.

Mace2004 · « **Reply #342 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:43:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins

It is entirely possible that the laws and restrictions being pushed by climatologists and their supporters are being pushed on the public because global warming is a convenient tool for achieving environmental goals that are otherwise unattainable and unpopular.

I'd add "unnecessary" to unattainable and unpopular.

Mace2004 · « **Reply #343 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:04:19 PM »

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Originally posted by oboe
If you don't mind, please link a quote where scientists claim weather and climate prediction is an EXACT science. I'll be very interested to read it.

I think many people have simply disengaged their brains on this issue.

There are plenty that show that while they claim it's not "exact" that they consistently neglect to refer to their theories as theories. They consistently conflate local weather with global climate. They consistently ignore that the earth has been warming since the end of the little ice age. They consistently ignore that the current warming is totally consistent in both time and intensity as previous global warming. They claim a large number of hurricanes is positive proof of global warming one year and then totally ignore the near abscence of hurricanes the next year. They claim that melting ice in a small percentage of Antarctica is proof positive of global warming yet ignore the fact that the rest of the continent has experienced far above average snowfall and increasing ice pack. Are you saying you've never seen or heard these outlandish claims? Based on this we're supposed to completely rewicker the way the world's economy runs? Talk about "disengaged brains" indeed.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #344 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:44:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
So are you basically saying that you have decreased the consumption of crops (corn mostly) for cattle?
A fart is not just a fart, - some stink more, and some are wetter

No.....I am saying that we decreased the number of feedlots.

Also opinions are like.......... uhhhhhh nevermind.

Author Topic: Global Warming (Read 16657 times)

storch