Author Topic: Global Warming (Read 17998 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #420 on:** February 21, 2007, 08:07:07 AM »

but... if the overall global temperature is neutral.. if it rises and falls but remains the same then we can't be having any real effect on it... or... we are having a positive effect?

I mean, the alternative would be that we would be getting colder and colder until we had the ice age your "scientists" used to predict.

lazs

Angus · « **Reply #421 on:** February 21, 2007, 08:50:01 AM »

I cannot recall any solid iceage prediction, except the nuclear one. But I do recall a prediction of warming and melting to occur at th end of the last millenium, and to continue.
Anyway Jackal: Brennivín isn't that bad, some liqourice schnapps might be worse, and in cola it's okay.
Hákarl is pretty rough, although I find sour-whale worse

lazs2 · « **Reply #422 on:** February 21, 2007, 08:54:57 AM »

you don't have to recall anything.. the link to the 70's article in Time magazine is in this thread.

lazs

Sabre · « **Reply #423 on:** February 21, 2007, 10:40:33 AM »

This article by John Linden quite well sums up just how un-reliable and dangerous "scientific consensus" can be (http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20070218-100445-1207r.htm). My favorite line is this one: ""The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule it." (originally by H. L. Mencken, and quoted in the article). I'm going to add it to my sig, I think.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #424 on:** February 21, 2007, 04:39:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
I cannot recall any solid iceage prediction, except the nuclear one. But I do recall a prediction of warming and melting to occur at th end of the last millenium, and to continue.
Anyway Jackal: Brennivín isn't that bad, some liqourice schnapps might be worse, and in cola it's okay.
Hákarl is pretty rough, although I find sour-whale worse

Don't read it.... your god will be angry if you doubt him.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #425 on:** February 21, 2007, 05:19:22 PM »

Sabre
Awsome link

This is one of the best parts!

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In order to focus on you and what you are doing to increase the CO2 in the atmosphere, which, as everyone knows will destroy the globe, we do not discuss the activities of termites. Fifteen years ago it was estimated that the digestive tracts of termites produce about 50 billion tons of CO2 and methane annually. That was more than the world's production from burning fossil fuel. Additionally, cattle, horses and other ruminant animals are huge producers of both CO2 and methane, but, being unable to respond to our demands on this issue, their activity is ignored.

Does eco religion allow pesticides? They sure didn’t like DDT.

FastFwd · « **Reply #426 on:** February 21, 2007, 07:00:21 PM »

If global warming isn't happening and/or it's no threat to mankind, it's funny how these threads attract so many posts!

Cypher · « **Reply #427 on:** February 21, 2007, 11:39:59 PM »

Sorry is if someone already pointed this out. we have been recording global temps for what? 100 years. the earth has been here for how many millions of years? how do we know that the earth even has a steady temp. for all we know we are in a massive cooling period.

Angus · « **Reply #428 on:** February 22, 2007, 03:50:41 AM »

It isn't steady.

And this:
"In order to focus on you and what you are doing to increase the CO2 in the atmosphere, which, as everyone knows will destroy the globe, we do not discuss the activities of termites. Fifteen years ago it was estimated that the digestive tracts of termites produce about 50 billion tons of CO2 and methane annually. That was more than the world's production from burning fossil fuel. Additionally, cattle, horses and other ruminant animals are huge producers of both CO2 and methane, but, being unable to respond to our demands on this issue, their activity is ignored. "

There were termites and ruminants around for a long time. But massive use of fossil fuels as well as large scale deforestation only counts for a few hundred. By the way, a horse is not a ruminant, which tells a bit about the quality of this rather common statement.

Here is a simpler statement.

It is known that an increase in greenhouse gas % will lead to heating. It is also known roughly how much we release, and golly it is actually measurable. And now, starting to be viewable. So, why be surprized?

Mace2004 · « **Reply #429 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:44:12 AM »

It's this sort of stuff that makes globalwarmingists look foolish:

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"And now global warming is becoming more apparent, it is highly likely an increasing number of young children will be turning up at hospital departments with these kinds of common illnesses," said researcher Lawrence Lam, a paediatrics specialist.

"It really demonstrates the urgent need for a more thorough investigation into how exactly climate change will affect health in childhood."

Nice how he segues right from the poor ill children into a call for "investigation" (read FUNDING).

Then there's
this . It sounds to me that the French department of agriculture should be doing a better job of inspecting for the import of non-indiginous species. This sort of stuff has happened since the beginning of large-scale transportation and trade. The Western and Southern US have killer bees which migrated from South America. Hawaii is being overrun by an imported vine, Florida has the imported Water Hyacynth, Guam has a large number of shrews which were brought in to combat a large number of snakes which were brought in to kill frogs. Of course the French blame global warming. lol.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #430 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:11:54 PM »

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Source Dr. Tessa Hill, Oceanographer: "What I know scientifically of what has happened in the past makes me concerned about what we might be heading into in the future."

When it comes to the subject of global warming, Dr. Hill is not a skeptic. From looking at fossils collected around the world, she concludes that the planet's climate system is anything but stable. It can, and has, moved from warm to cold, and back, very quickly.

How quickly?

Dr. Tessa Hill, Oceanographer: "Over human lifetimes."

Perhaps as fast as two generations, she says, with an alarming range in temperature. The difference between the last ice age and now.

So apparently at least according to this scientist even fast change is not out of normality of natural occurance.

john9001 · « **Reply #431 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:18:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
So apparently at least according to this scientist even fast change is not out of normality of natural occurance.

so should i buy a winter coat or shorts? a snowmobile or a boat? a convertible or a 4 wheel drive?

Yknurd · « **Reply #432 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:23:59 PM »

Has anyone in this thread given up their car for save the Earth? Huh, have you?

john9001 · « **Reply #433 on:** February 22, 2007, 01:19:49 PM »

the earth dosn't need "saving", it's the people that need saving.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #434 on:** February 22, 2007, 02:10:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
It isn't steady.

And this:
"In order to focus on you and what you are doing to increase the CO2 in the atmosphere, which, as everyone knows will destroy the globe, we do not discuss the activities of termites. Fifteen years ago it was estimated that the digestive tracts of termites produce about 50 billion tons of CO2 and methane annually. That was more than the world's production from burning fossil fuel. Additionally, cattle, horses and other ruminant animals are huge producers of both CO2 and methane, but, being unable to respond to our demands on this issue, their activity is ignored. "

There were termites and ruminants around for a long time. But massive use of fossil fuels as well as large scale deforestation only counts for a few hundred. By the way, a horse is not a ruminant, which tells a bit about the quality of this rather common statement.

Here is a simpler statement.

It is known that an increase in greenhouse gas % will lead to heating. It is also known roughly how much we release, and golly it is actually measurable. And now, starting to be viewable. So, why be surprized?

Preach it brother Angus!!!