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Offline morfiend

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« on: January 28, 2007, 02:20:50 PM »
The Eny restriction may be needed,BUT.... It can cripple 1 side and leave them all but defenceless.
   Lastnite, a base was swarmed 7 to 10 enemy A/C, Eny was like 18. So even tho the base was heavily defended the defenders didnt stand a chance, result...frustration sets in and base is left undefended,some even quit,"saying this is :furious :furious :mad: :mad: ..."
 
   So,while we may need eny limits,maybe it can be set to the ratio of players in a sector,or make a 4 sector box ,a quadrent, and adjust the ENY to that.
   Seems to me the Idea of Aces High is to have fun and the Eny limiter is interfering with that.

   Oh,BTW I did a search,nothing has been suggested or put forth about a sort of rolling Eny

 Any others with ideas to solve this....:aok
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Offline Mustaine

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 02:31:25 PM »
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Offline Kev367th

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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 02:48:41 PM »
Problem isn't ENY restrictions, but plane ENY values, they are all over the place.

For example -
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1942 Hurri IIc = 10 (same as a Tiffy by the way)
1945 190-D9 = 20

Sorry thats just plain nonsense, and there are plenty other examples.

It's time ENY values were based purely on a planes performance and not used as a backdoor way to restrict popular planes. (which has partly led to this ENY value insanity)
A planes popularity has nothing to do with how well or bad it performs.

Neither should it be based on a perceived it's 'easier' to fly than another plane, 'easier' is not quantifyable in any way.

IMO also Ostwinds / 163s (HQ defence) / Panzers should ALWAYS be available.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2007, 03:11:32 PM »
ENY sucks... plain and simple.

Why not just let us fly whatever we want?  We have perk points to limit rides.  Scrap it all together.  Mid war is pathetic with ENY lately.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2007, 03:12:13 PM »
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Originally posted by morfiend
The Eny restriction may be needed,BUT.... It can cripple 1 side and leave them all but defenceless.
   Lastnite, a base was swarmed 7 to 10 enemy A/C, Eny was like 18. So even tho the base was heavily defended the defenders didnt stand a chance


Defenders didnīt stand a chance? With a ENY of 18, you still have planes like La-5, Bf 109K & G14, C205, P38G & J & L , Spit IX and V. Add to that the huge numercial advantage one side has before gettin such an ENY restriction and you will find that you are FAR from being "defenseless"
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Offline Mugzeee

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2007, 03:22:18 PM »
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Originally posted by skernsk
ENY sucks... plain and simple.

Why not just let us fly whatever we want?  We have perk points to limit rides.  Scrap it all together.  Mid war is pathetic with ENY lately.


I suppose you would want to fly "where" you want to fly next? :D
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Offline BaldEagl

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2007, 05:34:25 PM »
I personally like the ENY system.

If it didn't exist I might not have ever gotten out of my Spit XVI.  Now I fly anything and everything as my XVI only gets occasional rides and I'm now accumulating perks at a rate I couldn't have imagined flying only a Spit XVI.

There are a lot of good planes available with ENY over 20 and even over 30.  You only felt defensless because you din't/don't know what the higher ENY planes are capable of nor what their strengths and weaknesses are.

Besides that, ENY was in effect because your country had a numbers advantage.  It sounds like most were'nt interested in defending.

As far as rating by performance I agree somewhat but lethality would also have to be part of that equation.  I just don't know how you could do it.  Which perfomance catagory are you going to use?  How do you evaluate T'n'B planes against B'n'Z planes, turning ability against climb rate, etc.?  Maybe the best measure would be K/D for a given aircraft directly from the arena stats but it seems to me most of the perk planes are already at the top of that list.
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Re: Re: Eny
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2007, 07:06:29 PM »
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Defenders didnīt stand a chance? With a ENY of 18, you still have planes like La-5, Bf 109K & G14, C205, P38G & J & L , Spit IX and V. Add to that the huge numercial advantage one side has before gettin such an ENY restriction and you will find that you are FAR from being "defenseless"


I duno I normally find at least on the Rook side when we are being hit hard by ENY.. Most of the times the in air numbers are close to what the Nit's have it's just we just have more guys in tower.

So even thought the guys actually fighting numbers are very close we get killed on ENY because of tower dwellers.

Early this mooring was prime example.. There was hardly anyone playing was only like 25-36 guys from each team in the air, but rook had total of 75 and 50 of them weren't in flight. So we were getting hit with ENY meanwhile we really didn't have any player advantage in the air.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2007, 07:54:07 PM »
I dont think thats true. Ive been able to get a P51 up when we have an eny by waiting for ghi to post a mission. While everyone is in the tower the eny comes down.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2007, 08:13:40 PM »
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I dont think thats true. Ive been able to get a P51 up when we have an eny by waiting for ghi to post a mission. While everyone is in the tower the eny comes down.


Take a look at this topic..

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=197224
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2007, 09:34:34 PM »
lol... ENY 18... Defenders didnt stand a chance... lol. Like widewing said, La-5, Bf-109K4, P-38, Spitfire IX & V, Fw-190s, Ostwinds, when ENY hits 30, then we will talk. Hell, ENY DID hit 30. What did I do? Flew a Bf-110 C-4b, Spitfire mk I, and Bf-109 E-4. ENY can be a b****, but there is always ONE plane you can still fly. Hell, havnt you heard of the P-40E?!?
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2007, 11:36:19 PM »
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Any others with ideas to solve this


I've got a nutty solution. Quit insisting on being on the side with an overwhelming numbers advantage, and change sides.
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2007, 11:37:06 PM »
And for my usual reply on the subject of ENY........

Hitler, Yamamoto and Moussalini would have loved it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2007, 12:05:29 AM »
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I've got a nutty solution. Quit insisting on being on the side with an overwhelming numbers advantage, and change sides.


Heh, I insist on flying with my squad.  When we log in and it makes the ENY go from normal to 25 or more... well I'm sorry I don't like it much.  I do feel that as a paying customer I should get to fly what I want, when I want and where I want.  Excluding perk rides which should be earned.

So hubs, try another solution.  And its not what chess piece I fly for, I could give a flying **** what side I am on, but the squaddies are what matters.  I aint trying to be difficult, but I do hate the ENY because flying a Hurricane IIc in Mid War is not my idea of a ride that needs to be restricted at ANY time.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2007, 12:38:21 AM »
I agree. Hurricane ENY is bulls***. I understand the HO tendency, but that doesnt warant an ENY of 10. Its still so slow a C-47 could outrun it.
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