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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2012, 08:16:35 AM »
EagleDNY,

Problem is that the Bf109G-10 could not be used in scenarios where a high blown, 20mm armed Bf109 is needed because it first saw service in November of 1944, a month after the Bf109K-4 entered service.

A Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS are really the only good options to fix that gap.

(A note:  The Spitfire Mk IX and Mk XVI have the same airframe with different engines.  The Spitfire Mk XIV was developed from the Spitfire Mk VIII's airframe, but both the Mk VIII and Mk XIV are their own beasts.)
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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2012, 10:41:03 AM »
A Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS are really the only good options to fix that gap.

This, finally something I can agree on - I've said it in the past, I'd like to see AS version 109s - their were more then a few squadrons that flew.

I flew the G-10 early in aces high, however its to late in the war and the K-4 was already coming into production - so no thanks.

Gap fillers would be better off, I believe if were going to add anymore 109s/spitfires - we need to be very wise in what we add, G-10 being so late war, would really NOT be a gap filler, more of another version that's so extremely limited to use. G-6 A/S for example would serve in a larger span of time, vs G-10 which would be limited to very Late war.

As a Joke I posed this a long time ago - if we DO add anymore 109s/spitfires, lets add one of each in a patch - kind of a tribute to both planes rather then have one group of "fanboys" whine about the latter not being added.
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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2012, 11:48:00 AM »
Butcher,

I do think we need one more Bf109 and one more Spitfire.  Anything beyond that isn't needed and would just fall into the "I want my favorite which is the "Bf109G-10/Spitfire Mk XII!" sort of request.

The two needed versions are the Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS and the Seafire Mk III.
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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2012, 03:07:21 PM »
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G10 is great for new players who want to fly LW planes.

you didnt bother to read the thread did ya?  specifically the reasons why the g10 doesnt need to be added.

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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2012, 07:54:03 PM »
Butcher,

I do think we need one more Bf109 and one more Spitfire.  Anything beyond that isn't needed and would just fall into the "I want my favorite which is the "Bf109G-10/Spitfire Mk XII!" sort of request.

The two needed versions are the Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS and the Seafire Mk III.

I totally agree, much as I want to see OTHER aircraft added in game, eventually we need to fill out the gaps of existing plane sets to finish them off, with the most useful plane sets.
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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2012, 05:25:20 AM »
Butcher,

I do think we need one more Bf109 and one more Spitfire.  Anything beyond that isn't needed and would just fall into the "I want my favorite which is the "Bf109G-10/Spitfire Mk XII!" sort of request.

The two needed versions are the Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS and the Seafire Mk III.
How much 3D remodelling theese aircrafts would require? Guessing, nearly zero.
Why not then?
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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2012, 07:51:04 AM »
An AS 109 would be a little work, being that you need the K-4 style cowling on the G-6 or G-14 airframe. Ideally, I'd like the G-6 AS with the Galland canopy and the low tail.
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« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2012, 08:45:01 AM »
How much 3D remodelling theese aircrafts would require? Guessing, nearly zero.
Why not then?
I understand there is about a month of research that Pyro does for each new aircraft.
An AS 109 would be a little work, being that you need the K-4 style cowling on the G-6 or G-14 airframe. Ideally, I'd like the G-6 AS with the Galland canopy and the low tail.
The Bf109G-6/AS would be my preference too.
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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2012, 04:01:12 PM »
For scenarios, I would rather see the F2 =(

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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2012, 10:59:42 PM »
EagleDNY,

Problem is that the Bf109G-10 could not be used in scenarios where a high blown, 20mm armed Bf109 is needed because it first saw service in November of 1944, a month after the Bf109K-4 entered service.

A Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS are really the only good options to fix that gap.

(A note:  The Spitfire Mk IX and Mk XVI have the same airframe with different engines.  The Spitfire Mk XIV was developed from the Spitfire Mk VIII's airframe, but both the Mk VIII and Mk XIV are their own beasts.)

We don't have 1945 scenarios?  Do agree that one fix would be to give our G-14 the DB-605ASM (note the ASM not AS - C3+MW50).  The DB605ASM is slightly less powerful than the DB605D series, but still has decent power at high altitude.  I don't know what is modeled in the thing now - the ata would seem to indicate an ASM, but he power curve seems strange.  I did find some interesting DB605 power charts, so maybe I'll do some testing and see what boost and speed I can get at various altitudes and do a comparison to find out.

 


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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2012, 11:03:00 PM »
Butcher,

I do think we need one more Bf109 and one more Spitfire.  Anything beyond that isn't needed and would just fall into the "I want my favorite which is the "Bf109G-10/Spitfire Mk XII!" sort of request.

The two needed versions are the Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS and the Seafire Mk III.

Would definitely like to see the Seafire Mk. III as well. 

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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2012, 12:31:15 AM »
I agree PLEASE bring the G10 back!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2012, 12:39:08 AM »
I agree PLEASE bring the G10 back!!!!!!!!!!!
We never had the Bf109G-10.  Therefor it cannot be brought back.
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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2012, 05:21:39 AM »
Don't forget the Emil-7  :angel:

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Re: A G10!!!!!!
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2012, 09:33:00 AM »
Don't forget the Emil-7  :angel:
Not needed.

Would be nice, but it isn't needed.
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