Author Topic: F4u4"C" (Read 2623 times)

Bronk · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2007, 01:19:48 PM »

Just to add in Jan of '45 the navy ordered 300 of the cannon -4 variant.

According to Dean.

Bronk

Kongkyuk · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2007, 01:30:55 PM »

According to David Mondey, "American Aircraft of WWII" page236 last papragraph, "Production F4U-4s began to enter service with the US Navy on 31 October 1944, and although F4u-4Bs were allocated for the Royal Navy no such aircraft were received. Variants of the F4U-4 included the F4U-4C with an armament of four 20-mm cannon,"

I agree that the F4U-4C was in very limited use in the Pacific during WWII.

Doesn't anybody but me think that the F4U-4C would be an AWSOME perk plane? Great speed, manuverablity, the best firepower and pilot protection.

Make the cost 100 or more perks. The plane would be a monster

Karnak · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2007, 02:06:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Kongkyuk
Alot of info on the web about the f4u4c (cannons) being in service in 1944. too much to copy and paste, The B was much later and produced in low numbers.

All the info I have seen claiming that has always been based on F4U-1Cs being misidentified as F4U-4Bs or F4U-4Cs. In otherwords, it stems from one error that has propogated out like the mythical 15mm cowl guns on the Bf109K-4.

Saxman · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2007, 03:45:07 PM »

That quote in no way says F4U-4Cs were in service before the end of WWII. All it says was that the F4U-4C was a VARIANT of the -4.

Kongkyuk · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2007, 03:47:04 PM »

RGR tht, but they were in use by June 1945 for the final push to Japan.

Karnak · « **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2007, 04:00:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Kongkyuk
RGR tht, but they were in use by June 1945 for the final push to Japan.

That has been debanked in the past. The only F4U-4s to see service in WWII had six .50 cals.

Debonair · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2007, 04:08:11 PM »

The -4b Corsairs were built & served in the Korean War with USN
history.navy.mil has a lot of photos of them

looks like they were built to FAA spec & then had the wingtips reattached

Krusty · « **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2007, 04:10:21 PM »

Regardless, post war.

Kongkyuk · « **Reply #23 on:** January 31, 2007, 04:12:04 PM »

I want an F4U-4C

Krusty · « **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2007, 04:23:41 PM »

Why? So you can out-run all but 3 planes in the game (tempest, 262 and la7, 2 of which are perked), out-turn 90% of all the planes in the game, outroll all but spit16 and 190D, out-dive everything including P-47s, decelerate so fast your face would rip off and your eyes pop out, pop flaps at all speeds and gain endless lift with almost no drag, and easily shoot down any plane from any angle at ranges up to and including 1k, with enough ammo left over to land a 20-kill sortie without rearming?

Why? You want that, go fly an arcade game with powerups and maybe space aliens

F4us are overmodeled as-is. Enjoy it while you can. You never know when HTC might re-think the modeling and say "Now wait a second, this isn't right".

Bodhi · « **Reply #25 on:** January 31, 2007, 05:11:12 PM »

Give definitive proof that the F4u's are overmodeled.

Krusty · « **Reply #26 on:** January 31, 2007, 05:20:23 PM »

Give definitive proof that they could go from 450mph clean to flaps-full, gear down, 110mph with no stall problems, inside of 15 seconds. That kind of decelleration could kill or disorient the pilot, yet I see that as one of the main manuvers of the so-called AH hog-drivers.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #27 on:** January 31, 2007, 05:20:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Bodhi
Give definitive proof that the F4u's are overmodeled.

Don't hold your breath waiting on it.

Krusty · « **Reply #28 on:** January 31, 2007, 05:26:32 PM »

Give me definitive proof they're modeled accurately.

Hell these planes couldn't fly upside down for more than 15-30 seconds before the engines seized, due to lack of oil. In this game they can fly endlessly. We also have hardly any of the other engine-related woes of the real life aircraft.

Are you going to tell me the F4u we have in Aces High is NOT the product of many many many compromises between reality and game? And since we KNOW that this plane is a compromise, are you going to tell me you think it's 100% accurate? If so we have nothing else to discuss, and you cannot be helped.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2007, 05:26:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Give definitive proof that they could go from 450mph clean to flaps-full, gear down, 110mph with no stall problems, inside of 15 seconds. That kind of decelleration could kill or disorient the pilot, yet I see that as one of the main manuvers of the so-called AH hog-drivers.

You have proof of this, or is it like the bombers you claimed were 100MPH faster than anyone else has ever seen them?

By the way, 30MPH per second decel is not nearly so bad as you would have people believe.