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« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2007, 07:44:56 PM »
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A-26 Invaders were reclassified as B-26's in late 40's, early 50's when Martin B-26's Marauders were all retired from service.  In Vietnam, since bombers were not allowed to be based in Thailand, they got re-designated A-26's (refurbished K models) to allow basing there as attack planes.  

So, depending on how it's painted (WWII, Korea, Vietnam) and model (B, C, K) would determine whether being listed as a B or A is correct.

Many B (solid gun nose) and C (glass nose with norden) models listings are also confusing, as the nose was interchangeable and replaceable on the Invader (which happened due to changing missions and repairing damaged aircraft, so some glass nosed "b" models and solid nosed "c" models can be found.

Plane had a long history and went through many changes.


"B-26K" is its listing. Its black body with red trim on the tail. Glass nose.

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« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2007, 08:26:02 PM »
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"B-26K" is its listing. Its black body with red trim on the tail. Glass nose.


Ah....if a K, Vietnam, then probably should be listed as an A-26 Invader.  It's not wrong, as they were refurbished and delivered back to the Air Force as B-26's in 1966.... but were re-designated then shipped to the war, so they operated as A-26A's (which were B/A-26K models..... military is like that...).

"On Mark converted 40 Invaders to the new B-26K Counter Invader standard, which included upgraded engines, re-manufactured wings and wing tip fuel tanks. In May 1966, the B-26K was re-designated A-26A and deployed in Thailand to help disrupt supplies moving along the Ho Chi Minh trail."

If it was actually in the war zone, I'd argue to the A-26 designation.  Plus, it probably confuses lots of people familiar with the Marauder, but not the Invader.

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« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2007, 09:10:08 PM »
But it looks nothing like a Marauder. I looked at the placard and said "Theres no way in hell thats a B-26."

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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2007, 12:42:19 PM »
My Dad  is currently a board member of the 13th Bomb Squadron Association.  http://www.13thbombsquadron.org

Organized as 13th Aero Squadron on 14 June 1917, the "Devil's own, Grim Reapers" are one of the oldest operational USAF squadrons, currently flying the B-2 after transitioning from the B-1.

Originally starting with SPAD 13's they eventually flew the A-20 from 1941 through 1945, the B-25 from 1942 through 1945 and the A-26/B-26 from 1945 through 1956  

Dad is also taking me to their annual reunion in october this year in Virginia Beach...WOOOHOOO!!!...

If someone can come up with a list of questions I can ask him to pass them on to the association members I will also follow up on them at the reunion.

These guys, pilots, mechanics, gunners...you name it...they WANT to tell people their stories....but they are dying out quickly.  Dad gets very depressed each year as the notices come back of members who won't be making it to the reunions any more.  Now is our chance.

Something interesting from the website concerning gun turrets and gunners during Korea:

"Too many of the aircraft had only a top turret -- nice for warding off attacking aircraft, but that just wasn't done in Korea. Well, maybe it was done a few times.  
 
Still, an upper turret could be used effectively when the plane was making evasive maneuvers departing from the attack. Able was the classic attack B-26 with both uppers and lowers. The gunner's job was to suppress anti-aircraft fire, usually after the attack had begun and the ground gunners learned the attack was in progress."
"Facing up to 200 Russians eager to have a nibble at you, or even Spitfires, can be quite enjoyable...but curve in against 70 Boeing Fortresses and all your past sins flash before your eyes."

Major Hans "Fips" Philipp
Geschwaderkommodore, JG 1
206 Victories. KIA 8 October, 1943

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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2007, 01:38:38 PM »
You're Dad got to fly some real hot hots then, in their day.

Did think about it before, but it makes sense a lot of A-26/B-26 in Korea lacked ventral barbette.... they removed them in WWII to add an additional fuel cell in the A-26's operating in the Pacific.  They needed the extra range more than the extra firepower, since USN and USAAF planes dominated the skies by then.

I could see where the ventral guns would have been missed in Korea and Vietnam.

A-26 Invader is just one sweet cherry of a ride.  The fact some kept flying them in combat zones around the world (Central America, Far East, Africa) until the 1980's says a lot about them.  Even U.S.A. did not retire it's last one until 1972.

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« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2007, 07:45:01 PM »
A great training video for our new bird:

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RealPlayer required.

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« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2007, 01:55:29 PM »
Yeah, that's a good video for the A-26 Invader.

Training manual can still be downloaded here:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?FileType=fs2k4&loc=downloads&page=downloads&Category=other#download

About 15th file down.  A-26_TraMan.zip