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« Reply #120 on: February 03, 2007, 11:57:06 AM »
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Well, you folks are trying to equate knives on airplanes with LiteBrites.  It's called a strawman argument.


Like comparing an electronic device placed strategically on local structures to a computer in a dumpster?

I think it's called being a hypocrite
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« Reply #121 on: February 03, 2007, 11:58:47 AM »


This is silly.  We're not going to convince each other, so it's a waste of time.
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« Reply #122 on: February 03, 2007, 12:00:51 PM »
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Well, you folks are trying to equate knives on airplanes with LiteBrites.  It's called a strawman argument.


Well if that's what you are getting out of it, you aren't keeping up. That's not my fault. It wasn't the outward appearance of the devices that made them suspicious but their location and frequency. Then the next question is could this device be a threat? The only logical answer before inspection is "YES."

Critical thinking enables one to find solutions to problems never incurred before. But is not for everyone. Your contention that an object's placement can't change how suspicious it is utter nonsense.  It so nonsensical you can't remotely support it and resort to name calling. "You're scared. You're paranoid." etc.

You're going to instruct me on logical fallacies?

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« Reply #123 on: February 03, 2007, 12:05:49 PM »
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This is silly.  We're not going to convince each other, so it's a waste of time.


Nope, not a total waste, i'm learning to photoshop!



Don't worry, it's only a lite bright!
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« Reply #124 on: February 03, 2007, 12:07:44 PM »
The terrorist now know not to mess around in Boston, way to many critical thinkers there.

However all the other cities that had all those highly suspicious devices in them are now in grave danger, obviously full of head in the sand types.

This has been a blast guys, but I gotta go drive around looking for terrorists and suspicious stuff

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« Reply #125 on: February 03, 2007, 12:11:48 PM »
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This has been a blast guys, but I gotta go drive around looking for terrorists and suspicious stuff

shamus


You get to do all the fun stuff, I have to go to work
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« Reply #126 on: February 03, 2007, 12:25:19 PM »
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The terrorist now know not to mess around in Boston, way to many critical thinkers there.

However all the other cities that had all those highly suspicious devices in them are now in grave danger, obviously full of head in the sand types.

This has been a blast guys, but I gotta go drive around looking for terrorists and suspicious stuff

shamus


Yea, and would you recap the points you made? I missed them. It doesn't seem possible someone could post 6 times and not say anything.
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« Reply #127 on: February 03, 2007, 12:45:59 PM »

I see these things everywhere. They have exposed wires and some sort of flashing light. People I don't know are walking around with them in public places, PUBLIC PLACES!!!!!! Oh noes!!!! They must be t3h suicide bombers!!!
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« Reply #128 on: February 03, 2007, 01:25:33 PM »
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Yea, and would you recap the points you made? I missed them. It doesn't seem possible someone could post 6 times and not say anything.


I was only trying to make one...your right, you missed it.

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« Reply #129 on: February 03, 2007, 02:00:24 PM »
"It had a very sinister appearance," Coakley told reporters. "It had a battery behind it, and wires."


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« Reply #130 on: February 03, 2007, 02:18:43 PM »
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You said that the people who made the ads were the ones who called these in as bombs to generate press coverage.  Are you retracting that claim now?

Past that, are personal responsibility and judgement concepts you understand?  

What level of paranoia is appropriate?  Don't weasel out, here are specific examples, tell me if the bomb squad should be called into any of the following:
*A blinking safety light, like this: http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/588964/2/istockphoto_588964_road_safety_3.jpg
* An abandoned car on the side of the highway (it could contains hundreds of lbs of explosives!)
* A car battery sitting on the side of the road
* A cup of coffee sitting on the edge of a trash can
* A trash can
* An ATM

How about a computer that someone has abandoned in a dumpster?

Or a flashlight left on a counter?

Here's a situation: You come out of a store and find that your car, which you had double parked, has been towed away and detonated because "it could have been a carbomb".  Do you applaud this?  Or is it an overreaction?  And if you applaud it, does that mean you're saying all double-parked cars should be treated as bombs and detonated?


What about an envelope with a piece of blank paper and a little white powder in it?  Think you should be paranoid about that?  How could anyone let something like that cause a terrorist alert?  You want to be the one that takes the bet that it's just powdered sugar and not anthrax?  I know a few postal workers up here in DC that would've lost that bet.  

How can anyone be worried about a lite-brite?  Geez, lets see - we can make explosives that are liquids, jels, powders, or solids and they can set them off with a cell-phone.  Somebody sees a strange object magnetically stuck under a bridge, I think I'd rather they call it in and have it checked out before I drive over it.  I don't care if it looks like the energizer bunny.  

The idiotic thing wasn't the planting of the things, it was not telling the proper authorities either 1) ahead of time, or 2) immediately after they realized the things were being mistaken for something dangerous.  If it turns out that they called in the alert as a publicity stunt when their ads didn't get noticed, that deserves jail time for someone.

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« Reply #131 on: February 03, 2007, 02:39:47 PM »
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I think it's funny that the authorities in Boston are going to try and hold the people at Cartoon Network accountable for their $750,000 blunder. Even after they detonated the first couple ones and it was obvious that they weren't bombs, and even after the Turner company had contacted the authorities and advised them that they were just Light-Brites, they still used the bomb squad to take down every one of them. Whose fault is that?



A full on gear-up & roll tactical incident, in the wild, with multiple incidents?, no way anyone at the PD would call that off.. they live for the excitement of that moment and would have played it out with full drama even if the suspicious objects were rubber dog poop that spelled "boom".

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« Reply #132 on: February 03, 2007, 03:21:11 PM »
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« Reply #133 on: February 03, 2007, 03:32:38 PM »
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« Reply #134 on: February 03, 2007, 06:50:53 PM »
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