[as] Shuts Down Boston

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It says nothing about anybody calling in "a bomb threat" as you have so fervently been claiming. It answers NONE, zero, zip, nada of the questions put forth.

What does it look like from a phone call? Better question is what does it look like from close inspection by trained EOD personel? Too bad we don't have an answer to that one. Apparently, Boston has none.

[Sixpence]

I provided the link. there it is. The advertising company deliberatley caused a bomb scare. You asked me what proof I have, there it is!

Ok, I said bomb scare, because when someone calls in and describes what could be a bomb, that's what it is. Now you are going to tell me there was no bomb scare? So, you don't say it's a bomb, you just describe one.

It was a deliberate act by the advertising company to cause panic. Why, when they knew it was causing panic, did they not say anything and let it play out?

That was a deliberate act to cause panic.

Look, as the phone calls are traced to their source, if the the ad company, or anybody who participated didn't make a phone call, i'll admit I was wrong.

[DiabloTX]

Looks like the free press from this publicity stunt is working to perfection.

Did you see the guys that got arrested and their comments afterwards?

No real surprise that they weren't concerned over the **** they stirred up.

Putz's.

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Originally posted by Sixpence
It's not his job to pay someone to call in false bomb threats either

You said they called in a bomb threat. Don't go changing your story while it's still in print.

Originally posted by Sixpence
It was a deliberate act by the advertising company to cause panic.

No, it was'nt. It was an ad campaign that overestimated the audience. As a matter of fact it was information from TimeWarner thru federal channels that ended the fiasco.

Originally posted by Sixpence
Look, as the phone calls are traced to their source, if the the ad company, or anybody who participated didn't make a phone call, i'll admit I was wrong.

What kind of Paul Revere Caller ID do they have in Boston? Does the information travel at the speed of smell?

[Yeager]

I don't blame Boston officials for being overly cautious, but a simple look at the devices would have eliminated serious concern right away. But you know, better safe than sorry.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Yeager
I don't blame Boston officials for being overly cautious, but a simple look at the devices would have eliminated serious concern right away. But you know, better safe than sorry.

I could buy this except for a couple things. If you can't see both sides of any device you have no idea what is on the other side. Depending on how it's placed a full view of the item may not be possible.

Secondly nothing says a bomb has to look like the hollywierd representation of dynamite a clock and wires leading to a blasting cap.

Given that there is no do over when dealing with a potential device and the results tend to be somewhat permanent you have to treat it like it's real until proven otherwise.

A news blurb on earlier today had what looked like the Chief of Police making a claim of multiple calls coming into the department about the devices. Unfortunately it was not a long video of the statement and no additional info came out of  the ews story to say one way or the other.

I agree that the safe way to deal with it is to be overly cautious and treat it like a valid threat.

[Chairboy]

Maverick: They were all in place for 3 weeks without any calls.  No calls in any of the other cities.  Here in OR, we're not panicky animals who pee all over ourselves in fright when we see a light-brite picture of a cartoon character.

Also, a note, when you refer to seeing the other side, keep in mind that they were as thick as a sturdy piece of paper.  They were thin circuit-boards with batteries on the front and some LEDs.

You bring up some good points, just want to make sure that these facts don't get lost in the shuffle.

[Sandman]

They were also in place in 9 other major cities.

I suspect that I was too hasty in my judging the U.S. as being a bunch of hand wringing candy-asses.

Maybe it's just Boston.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Maverick: They were all in place for 3 weeks without any calls.  No calls in any of the other cities.  Here in OR, we're not panicky animals who pee all over ourselves in fright when we see a light-brite picture of a cartoon character.

Also, a note, when you refer to seeing the other side, keep in mind that they were as thick as a sturdy piece of paper.  They were thin circuit-boards with batteries on the front and some LEDs.

You bring up some good points, just want to make sure that these facts don't get lost in the shuffle.

While we are bandying facts about.

Just because they had been there for days does not mean the LEO's had a clue about that bit of information. Believe it or not they don't keep track of every bit of property in the city. Particularly one of how many folks?

Secondly even if a device had been there for days does not mean the same device had been there for the entire time.

Thirdly explosives come in all kinds of "flavors" and don't require a thick device.

Lastly they don't have a clue about what is placed in or even happens in another city. The devices in the other city would have no bearing on how they would react to a call or situation in their own city. If there was no national exposure covering the same situation they wouldn't have much of any idea about it. Until the thing in Boston hit the news I didn't hear anything about any of the other cities. Then again the other devices in the other cities is likely to be a help to the defense in any prosecution to indicate a lack of actual intent to cause harm.

FWIW I agree that the response was over the top, but then again hind sight is always clearer. On the other hand having been in the position of looking for a "suspicious device" in the past you have to assume it's real. If it is and you treat it like it's not, the results can have a significant impact on your surviving family members lives.

In regards to this situation I think prosecution is going to have a very difficult time making a case for intent in this situation. I don't think a prosecution is likely to go very far but then again if the prosecutor has a real political fire lit under him by the city being embarrased they may go for it. They may have more success suing than prosecuting.

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Chairboy
 Should I call the bombsquad when I see a cardboard box lying on the side of the freeway? !

No. You should walk over to anything you may think is suspicious, pick it up and shake the hell out  of it, then slam it to the ground and stomp it flat. Only then you can be sure.

[storch]

Originally posted by Slash27
No. You should walk over to anything you may think is suspicious, pick it up and shake the hell out  of it, then slam it to the ground and stomp it flat. Only then you can be sure.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Sixpence
From what I was told, they were not called in as bombs, but as circuit boards with wires and taped objects attached. It was not called in as a glowing light brite.

The calls were made to describe a bomb, not a lite bright.

Who cares.  

"Sean Stevens and Peter Berdovsky are charged with placing a hoax device that causes panic."  

1.)  Let's keep making up laws like these.   Eventually the Country will laugh itself to death.

2.)  Further proof that this nation is letting the pus*ies (regardless of Politicial Parties) run this country into the sewer.

[Sandman]

[Chairboy]

Sixpence seems to have abandoned ship.  Man overboard!

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Sixpence seems to have abandoned ship.  Man overboard!

Hey, if that saves face for ya