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Offline Benny Moore

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« on: January 31, 2007, 09:52:22 PM »
A friendly salute or a "good kill" is a good thing to hear after a well-earned kill.  What about "nice shooting"?  When I say, "nice shooting," it means that the flier who shot me didn't work hard to out-manuever me but rather caught me with a well-placed deflection shot.  It's by no means a jab at his flying but rather a recognition of his superior gunnery.  For the same reason, I say "good flying" or something similar when the gunnery was not particularly spectacular but my opponent out-manuevered me.  And if I find his flying and shooting both noteable, I'll say, "Great flying, good shooting!"

However, I find that most people don't do anything of the sort.  What makes me raise an eyebrow is when I work for three minutes to out-maneuver an opponent flying a more maneuverable ship than mine, and I finally get on his tail and hit him enough to send him down, and the guy says "nice shooting."  It's as if the fact that I just out-maneuvered him - in a fighter twice as heavy as his - is of little or no consequence.  What's even worse is the "nice shot."  This implies that he would have won if I hadn't made the shot, but it just wasn't his day.  The hint is that not only was my maneuvering unimpressive, but my gunnery isn't really that great either.  I just got lucky, or made an unusually decent shot.

Why do people dislike acknowledging when the other pilot flies well?  When I see somone fly in a particularly impressive manner, I make known my admiration.   It could be that he was fighting in an inferior ship, or was outnumbered, or fought from a lower energy state.  Or perhaps his flying wasn't the best I've seen, but he'd only been flying two weeks and his skill is equivalent to a three month player.  Whatever it is, I feel it deserves credit.  It takes hard work to become good at this, many years for most people.  A simple exclaimation can really make one's day better.  There's so much negativity going around (much of it deserved, unfortunately); why not praise when it's due?

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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2007, 09:55:09 PM »
I think we should have one "encompassing thread".   Rather than 1,000 threads of this type.
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Offline Benny Moore

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2007, 10:07:34 PM »
I hardly think that's fair.  A search and a browse through many pages shows up nothing of the sort in a title.  I've been here for several months and have never heard anyone even hint at what I've posted.  Certainly the point has seldom, if ever, been made in a reasonable and eloquent manner as I've tried to do just now.  It's a valid point not often addressed.  Do you have a guilty conscience?

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2007, 10:36:38 PM »
Shubie( a classy player IMHO) said that to me just today.

He said under tough circumstances even.  He had recently upped and I was capping the base.  He could have said nothing, mentioned that the E states of our planes were dramatically disparate, or complained about me capping the base as we tried to take it.  Instead he gave a good spirited " Nice Shot" on a steep deflection snapper I got him with.*


* In the end Shubie saved the base.  I ran out of fuel and went home, we never did take the base.

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2007, 10:44:26 PM »
hey a compliment is a compliment ill take it. lol if they say nice shot that in other words means they are really pissed. lol just shoot them down again.

at least its better then "can we take the diapers off dmonslyr" something like that from nuetrino because he thought i had exturnal views on. after i kicked his prettythang

lol just take the compliment. i look at it like this if he says "GS" then that means every knows he died. which when you reply "thank you gf" it looks a lot better on your part. see what im saying.

if they say GF then people wont know you won :D

kind of a selfish way of saying it but hey it makes me feel better.

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 10:45:42 PM »
Why do people hesitate from responding with a "good on you"? I am not a psychologist but surely it is not a great leap of thought. They are bitter about it.

The only people who like being defeated are those with an alternative agenda or underachievers. The rest suppess their emotions believing their next engagement will prove more satisfying.

It is a nice thing and a cordial form of decorum to comment accordingly to the victors prowess. But doesn' t the observation require someone of superior ability make the comment. If a person has the superior skill, then obviously, the lucky shot awarded to the inferior pilot does need comment if an overbearing ego is in feeding mode.

It is a cordial thing, perhaps a means of introduction or leveling off of emotions. It's not something I do very often and if I do its not rhetoric. Each and every word would be composed specifically for that opponent so they would know it was heart felt and not simply a cordiality but an observation of something that I felt was so good that I was compelled to thank the victor for what I learned from the engagement.

I don't mind rehtoric but it really can be as redundant as small talk. Certainly others love it fanatically because they believe it means something.  I'm not a psycologist so I'm sure, but the reason is very complex and the result, it would be the same complexity. I am sure you knew all that Benny,  but failed to force yourself to organize it into a cognizant thought perhaps.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 10:55:06 PM »
You know who was a really good shot? pellik.
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Offline Benny Moore

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 11:10:18 PM »
That's a rather depressing viewpoint, Raster, and I'm sure it's part of the problem rather than part of the solution.  My solution uses simple logic; if the other guy flew well, tell him so.  It will make him happier without hurting yourself (unless you've got a disgusting level of pride).  If a player can't do that, then he should not say anything.  He should not try to mislead others by implying that his opponent did not outfly him but rather won because of his gunnery.

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 11:14:11 PM »
nice flying, good shot, good fight, GK, S, ,  all mean the same to me whether I am the sender or receiver........I do not get into the complexed thoughts of it all........

Nice HO, wtg HO boy, I salute you RAMMASTER!... all have the same meaning too.......:D

now if it is an extremely good fight case in point: Hap flying the 109e against me in the F4U-1 ,  I will be a lil more thorough and tell em so :aok
« Last Edit: January 31, 2007, 11:17:14 PM by TequilaChaser »
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 11:23:13 PM »
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lol if they say nice shot that in other words means they are really pissed. lol just shoot them down again.


It means they are pissed?  Maybe that's what it means when you are pissed. Others are just good sports having fun.  They don't say things like "My grandma furballs better than you"  That was one of your gems tonight.  LOL.

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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2007, 11:35:46 PM »
.  For the same reason, I say "good flying" or something similar when the gunnery was not particularly spectacular but my opponent out-manuevered me.   [/B][/QUOTE]

My favorite kill mission was when I dragged 3 nme through the trees & sheared all of them off through the foliage. I'm prouder of those proxy kills than most of the real kills I get. So I agree- there is a flying component and a shooting component for great deflection shooters that should be acknowledged.
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2007, 12:43:04 AM »
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
You know who was a really good shot? pellik.





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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2007, 12:50:52 AM »
I just have "Nice Shooting", "Good Kill", "Salute", etc, etc.....Printed on my tail. That way I don't take up an obscene amount of air time saying it every time I get waxed.......:rofl

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2007, 12:52:26 AM »
When someone gets me with a shot that I think is particularly difficult to make, I'll pay him or her the compliment in the game - as both a comment and congratulations on their shooting in that particular circumstance. I do the same thing when I've won or lost a good, hard fought fight.
No one likes to be on the losing end of a competition, but that doesn't mean a good shot isn't worthy of comment or the shooter unworthy of congratulations on making it. Assuming that someone who offers the compliment is somehow really just a back-handed insult is a pretty pessimistic view.
However, just to make sure you don't misconstrue any in-game comments from me as an insult Raster, I will refrain from making them to you.



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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2007, 01:14:16 AM »
Benny, what exactly is the problem you're referring to?
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