Spitifres

[crockett]

You can complain all you want about the spit being over modeled from what I've seen of pilot interviews it was a very well handling plane. So why should HT make it worse just because it was a great handling plane in real life?

The spit also has it's weakness it's a easy target to shoot down if you get your guns on it.. It doesn't stand a chance in collisions meanwhile many other planes can easily land after a collision that would have taken down a spit. If someone pings you it doesn't hold up so well either, the wings fall of a spit as faster than any other plane I've seen.

Another thing I can say about most of the spits, is the guns are somewhat weak. So for every advantage it has disadvantages. As a side note I've been flying the spit 9 most of the time lately and while it may be a good plane, there are many that can out do it in many diffrent ways.

[FX1]

Originally posted by SkyRock
If you're on my 6 and I am going 400mph, you are dead my friend, if you try to follow.  The only thing you could do is ride your E on through til you could go vert!  If you tried to follow, you would die, no matter what spit your in!:aok
Mark

I dont go over 300mph (:

[SkyRock]

Hard to beat a 300 mph spit!   Hogs can only do soo much with a spit under 300 with a good stick piloting it!

[Ack-Ack]

Keep the Spitfire out of medium speed range when fighting it.  Best way to fight one.

And I wouldn't say the Spitfire XVI is the best vertical fighter in the game either.  P-38J/L is still better and handles a lot better at low/stall speeds than the Spitfire XVI.


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[Benny Moore]

How can the P-38 be the better vertical fighter when the Spitfire Sixteen is faster and climbs better?  You'd better have a massive energy advantage, or you're screwed if the Spitfire pilot knows his ship.

[crockett]

Seems most of the gripes against spits are mainly the spit 16. If so why do so many act as if any spit is a gravy ride?

I'd agree with AckAck on the 38 being much better vert fighter than a spit 16. I'd go back to flying the 38 if I could turn the darn thing.

[Atoon]

Originally posted by crockett
You can complain all you want about the spit being over modeled from what I've seen of pilot interviews it was a very well handling plane. So why should HT make it worse just because it was a great handling plane in real life?

The spit also has it's weakness it's a easy target to shoot down if you get your guns on it.. It doesn't stand a chance in collisions meanwhile many other planes can easily land after a collision that would have taken down a spit. If someone pings you it doesn't hold up so well either, the wings fall of a spit as faster than any other plane I've seen.

Another thing I can say about most of the spits, is the guns are somewhat weak. So for every advantage it has disadvantages. As a side note I've been flying the spit 9 most of the time lately and while it may be a good plane, there are many that can out do it in many diffrent ways.

This is truely a sad day. Somone has actually considered a planes ability to survive a collision in their overall evaluation.

[crockett]

Originally posted by Atoon
This is truely a sad day. Somone has actually considered a planes ability to survive a collision in their overall evaluation.

Using it as a simple example.. like it or not when furballing (and when fighting the typical LA-7 pilot ) collisions are a fact of the game. So being able to land after one has it's advantages.

[Atoon]

I understand the circumstances, I guess its just a sad truth that you need to consider a planes collision survivability in todays AH.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Benny Moore
How can the P-38 be the better vertical fighter when the Spitfire Sixteen is faster and climbs better?  You'd better have a massive energy advantage, or you're screwed if the Spitfire pilot knows his ship.

Just because a plane has a better climb rate doesn't mean it's better in the vertical.  In the vertical, some planes shed E faster than others despite having a better climb rate.  I'm not saying the Spitfire XVI is bad in the vertical but coalt and co-energy, it will stall out before the P-38 in the vertical, especially against those Lightning drivers that can really extend their vertical climb and keep their nose up when they're slower than 75mph.


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[Atoon]

My C47 got shot down by a spit today, & my yak only killed 5. Im slippin backwards.

[Karnak]

The two best fighters for the verticle are the P-38 and Ki-84.

Despite their better sheer climb and speed, the Bf109K-4, Spitfire Mk XIV, Spitfire Mk XVI and Spitfire Mk VIII do not handle verticle combat as well due to their greater torque and inability to pull tightly over the top like the P-38 and Ki-84 can.

The P-38 and Ki-84 will eat any of those fighters for lunch in a verticle fight given equal pilots.

[BBOB]

Hey, it is what it is . Everyone that plays this game knows what the capabilities of a good spit pilot are. If you fly a F4U or a P38 you fight the spit the way you have to fight a spit.

I love to fight spits, their a challenge and it's fun and part of this game worth the $14.95.

Wish people would quit cryin and have more fun.

[Benny Moore]

I agree that P-38s are far easier to handle and can stay at the top of the vertical climb longer, but if the two started with equal energy the difference is not nearly enough to put the P-38 out of the Spitfire's gun range.  The Spitfire will stall first and more messily, but not before he's hosed the P-38 who is hanging nicely on her propellers.  That's my take on it, anyway.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Just because a plane has a better climb rate doesn't mean it's better in the vertical.  In the vertical, some planes shed E faster than others despite having a better climb rate.  I'm not saying the Spitfire XVI is bad in the vertical but coalt and co-energy, it will stall out before the P-38 in the vertical, especially against those Lightning drivers that can really extend their vertical climb and keep their nose up when they're slower than 75mph.


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Nice statement!:aok