Tim Hardaway and his love of gays

[storch]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Ahh Storchita feels the need to be insulting.  Really, you have to let the fact that I can repeatedly kick your arse in this game go.  It is making you a bitter little man.  Not to mention your obsession with me is now entering the "gay zone".


ack-ack

I thought I was on your ignore list pumpkin. what's the matter? you can't keep away huh?

[lukster]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
To just close your eyes and mind and think that AIDS/HIV is a "gay" disease is wrong and has seriously hampered efforts to globally combat this disease.


ack-ack

It certainly is not just a homosexual disease which was my point I think you missed. However, were it not for past homosexual activity would this disease be the plague for humanity that it currently is?

[Viking]

Yes.

[lukster]

Originally posted by Viking
Yes.

Perhaps the ancient religious taboos against illicit sexual activity are not without merit.

[Viking]

They're not that ancient.

Blaming the gays for the HIV pandemic is just silly. Africa is the real culprit with millions infected and no knowledge or education on how to protect against this disease. In addition many believe raping a virgin girl can cure AIDS; doesn’t really help the situation.

And I’m afraid your “ancient” religion is doing more harm than good over there, the Catholic Church being against birth control and condoms.

[storch]

Originally posted by Viking
They're not that ancient.

Blaming the gays for the HIV pandemic is just silly. Africa is the real culprit with millions infected and no knowledge or education on how to protect against this disease. In addition many believe raping a virgin girl can cure AIDS; doesn’t really help the situation.

And I’m afraid your “ancient” religion is doing more harm than good over there, the Catholic Church being against birth control and condoms.

you may want to look at uganda's HIV infection levels and what the official gov't policy is there, how that policy has been implemented and the results they have obtained.

[Mightytboy]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Unfortunately that is a bad example as the majority of pedophiles and sexual predators are heterosexual.


ack-ack

Urges! Urges!

It's about controlling the urges. Y a know like in just because you want to do something doesn't mean you should.

I never said pedophiles were gay.

[lazs2]

Ok BTW.. now we are getting somewhere.. you admit that, to some extent at least. people are born with their sexual orientation.. be that hetro or homo..

So.. being born either way..  a person would conflict himself to act differently.  It would not be "natural" for him to do so.  

But... you also said that environment played a part.    How big a part would you say?   I say very little.  I would say that... left to themselves... all people revert to the genetics.. the way they were born.

Do you believe that environment is a big enough factor that it will overcome the genetic part in some permenent way?  or... are all of us able to switch back and forth with the right environment?   Is a convict in prison really gay or does the fact that as soon as he is around women he has strictly hetro sex... is that a sign that behavior is only a matter of convienence and natural horniness and that the hardwired part is impossible to really overcome permenently?

mightyboy...  You have every right to say whatever you want.   It doesn't bother me.. it is how you act that is important.   The sports guy has every right so far as I am concerned too but....  he has to abide by the rules of the people that are paying his outlandish salary for his piddly talent.

He has every right to quit if he does not like their rules or...  work for change in the workplace.   At this point tho...  We all have workplace rules that do not allow us to insult fellow employees.    

If you go on one of your rants in the workplace and insult someone who has no choice but to sit and take it then the employer would be right to get rid of you.  If you didn't want to go you could always try the old "rehab" scam too.

lazs

[Mightytboy]

Well for the record I try not to  treat gays any different in person than I do anyone else. Unless of course they do something that pisses me off then all bets are off.

I may not like their's or other people's lifestyles but I mind my own business and stay out of theirs as long as they don't try to force me to participate. That includes parades,demonstrations or even to change/create laws.

I express my opinions here like everyone else but I try to never offend anyone in person unless they offend me first.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Mightytboy
I express my opinions here like everyone else but I try to never offend anyone in person unless they offend me first.

Fair enough, but unfortunately much of what you wrote did offend me.  The reason is that Dr. Fontana (the guy from the link I provided) was a great friend of our family before he passed away.

He saved my grandfather's life at one point and did the same for my father as well.

Reading your comments on how you think gays have a mental problem and that they cannot be trusted with children was what prompted me to respond, particularly given that he devoted his life to helping children.

[Mightytboy]

Originally posted by Curval
Fair enough, but unfortunately much of what you wrote did offend me.  The reason is that Dr. Fontana (the guy from the link I provided) was a great friend of our family before he passed away.

He saved my grandfather's life at one point and did the same for my father as well.

Reading your comments on how you think gays have a mental problem and that they cannot be trusted with children was what prompted me to respond, particularly given that he devoted his life to helping children.

I understand that some people have friends that are gay and they don't always see both sides. I have had gay friends that have never done anything wrong (as far as I know) but it still doesn't change or make up for the bad ones I've encountered.

I used to think it was my location (24 miles south of IU, The Gay capital of Indiana) but watching the news and my own traveling in and out of the country has shown me that they aren't much different.

Granted as it was stated before there are different degrees of Gayness just like anything else. Just like there are degrees of sports fans.

For example One guy may like a team but only watch a couple of games a year while a super fan watches every game in person and only dresses in his team colors and so on.

Your Doctor friend may be at one end while someone like Bobby Trendy (gotta know the Anna Nicole Smith show for this one) is on the other end.

My generalization of all gays is for lack of time I normally have to post.

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by Mightytboy
I understand that some people have friends that are gay and they don't always see both sides. I have had gay friends that have never done anything wrong (as far as I know) but it still doesn't change or make up for the bad ones I've encountered.

I used to think it was my location (24 miles south of IU, The Gay capital of Indiana) but watching the news and my own traveling in and out of the country has shown me that they aren't much different.

Granted as it was stated before there are different degrees of Gayness just like anything else. Just like there are degrees of sports fans.

For example One guy may like a team but only watch a couple of games a year while a super fan watches every game in person and only dresses in his team colors and so on.

Your Doctor friend may be at one end while someone like Bobby Trendy (gotta know the Anna Nicole Smith show for this one) is on the other end.

My generalization of all gays is for lack of time I normally have to post.

What do the gays do that is wrong?

[Kieran]

Let me ask a question... if a gay guy gets on the tube and says he hates heterosexuals, what would happen? Nothing, that's what. Rosie O'Donnell comes pretty darn close at times, and folks just love her. Free pass. And boy, does she and her ilk take the pot shots at religion.

Could be what is really hardwired into white Anglo-Saxon populations is guilt. You know, gotta be sorry for this, gotta be sorry for that. Gotta prove that sensitivity all the time. Heaven forbid someone label you a homophobe or something. Gotta go over the top to prove your "okayness with gayness". Oh, the chest-thumping we see! Sorry, I don't wanna be that enlightened.

I believe homosexuality is wrong based on religious beliefs. That isn't going to change, but that doesn't mean I am going to do anything to or about gay people. I will vote against any agenda that attempts to normalize it, but that's about it. I certainly don't want my kids to be fed the line it's normal behavior. That's my right as a parent, and I don't really care what anyone thinks about it.

I still interact with them, still work with them, just like everyone else. I don't want to know anything about their personal lives any more than I want to hear the latest drama from any other co-worker.

Tim Hardaway was an idiot to say what he said. It was full of hate and malice, and that is totally unnecessary. He could disagree with the concept and not hate the person in the process.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Kieran
Let me ask a question... if a gay guy gets on the tube and says he hates heterosexuals, what would happen?  

A "bring your own soap" party down at Brucie`s house?

Rosie O'Donnell comes pretty darn close at times, and folks just love her.

Huh? I have yet to meet anyone who doesn`t totaly detest Blowsie.
I do think Bobba Wobba has the hots for her.

[lukster]

Originally posted by Viking
They're not that ancient.

Blaming the gays for the HIV pandemic is just silly. Africa is the real culprit with millions infected and no knowledge or education on how to protect against this disease. In addition many believe raping a virgin girl can cure AIDS; doesn’t really help the situation.

And I’m afraid your “ancient” religion is doing more harm than good over there, the Catholic Church being against birth control and condoms.

Several thousand years is ancient as far as I'm concerned. The ten commandments is to what I refer.