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Offline Ball

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« on: February 18, 2007, 05:42:43 AM »
In real life when the bombs were dropped, all bombs went, they couldnt pickle one at a time.

Could we make it more historically accurate by having this modelled in game please?

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2007, 07:31:26 AM »
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In real life when the bombs were dropped, all bombs went, they couldnt pickle one at a time.

Could we make it more historically accurate by having this modelled in game please?


Sorry to dissapoint you Furball, but that's not true ;)
The bombardeer had the option to drop the bombs all at once or in salvo's
I'm not sure they could drop individual bombs though

In films/movies/pictures of bomb-drops, its often shown that the bombers drop all bombs at once, but this is due to the carpetbombing tactic.
It's not that they had no other option :)

« Last Edit: February 18, 2007, 07:37:01 AM by frank3 »

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 12:50:04 PM »
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In real life when the bombs were dropped, all bombs went, they couldnt pickle one at a time.

Could we make it more historically accurate by having this modeled in game please?



Yes, you could select salvo back then.  

In real life, 3 bombers didn't go off to hit a target either by themselves.  

But I'm willing to compromise; give me an additional 17 drones to make up a normal 20 plane Bomber Group, so that three buff drivers can come close to the 60 plane Bomber Wing. and we can post a mission to try to come close to the 1000 plane missions that took place in real life, and I'll go for make ".salvo all" the standard in heavy bombers.

Fair?

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 01:31:12 PM »
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In real life, 3 bombers didn't go off to hit a target either by themselves.


In real life 1 pilot didnt control 3 bombers. Get rid of formations at all and if you want 20 bombers historical group find 19 more pilots for it. That would be fair.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 01:56:12 PM »
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In real life 1 pilot didnt control 3 bombers. Get rid of formations at all and if you want 20 bombers historical group find 19 more pilots for it. That would be fair.


Ohh  snap.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2007, 03:40:30 PM »
I'd settle for shortening the leash on drones so that if you didn't maintain level flight at less than full power while flying a formation they'd go "poof" to stop the dive-bombing and dogfighting BUFF stupidity.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2007, 12:04:58 AM »
Better yet keep it how it is.  :eek:


I would like to see an option for how many drones in a formation for offline though.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2007, 05:32:57 AM »
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In real life 1 pilot didnt control 3 bombers. Get rid of formations at all and if you want 20 bombers historical group find 19 more pilots for it. That would be fair.


Thats cool. Just make runways crater-able just like in real life, and a real life like blast radius.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 06:36:11 AM »
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Thats cool. Just make runways crater-able just like in real life, and a real life like blast radius.


You will first who will ask for turning it off again ...after 9999 deaths in craters at spawn points made by friendly bombs.

And btw, in RL aircrafts didnt spawn right at end of runway.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2007, 07:55:18 AM »
If fix the bombers the first thing to be done is the guns all firing at one spot.  No way in RL would all the guns in a formation would fire at one spot.

Also make the bombsight harder to use to make it actually a challenge to bomb something up at 25k.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 02:25:27 PM »
Methinks me sees a new forum game taking shape:

In real life: we'd have to taxi from the revetments to the runway to take off.

In real life: we'd have to sit through a briefing and debriefs.

In real life: we'd have to listen to our crew chief chew us out when we bring back his plane all shot up......


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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2007, 02:47:09 PM »
You started the real life junk.
But ya don't like it when it works against you.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2007, 06:30:57 PM »
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You started the real life junk.
But ya don't like it when it works against you.
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

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Please re-read the first sentence of the first post in this thread.

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 05:03:21 AM »
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You will first who will ask for turning it off again ...after 9999 deaths in craters at spawn points made by friendly bombs.

And btw, in RL aircrafts didnt spawn right at end of runway.


Doubtfull. We never lift from an airfield ajoining the enemies.

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And btw, in RL aircrafts didnt spawn right at end of runway.


Hey I'm all for making it hanger spawnables. I like taxiing out.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 05:04:30 PM »
I can't remember where i read that it was all or none in the B-17 so i cannot quote my source.

Thanks for the correction!