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Offline wes34th

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« on: February 20, 2007, 09:26:29 PM »
I  heard on the news today that the museum of the confederacy in Richmond Virginia is thinking about dropping the name confederacy because they claim that people now associate confederacy with racism.
What do y'all think:)

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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 09:34:51 PM »
People do associate the word confederacy with slavery.  That doesn't mean you should drop it.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 09:39:50 PM »
Don't revise history to make it "PC". It wasn't "PC" back then and the lessons should remain.
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 09:53:37 PM »
Should the Italians rename "Rome"?

The Roman Empire enslaved more people than the south ever did.

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 09:54:02 PM »
I think anyone considering such a name change based solely on that reason has no business administrating a museum dealing with history.  It was called the Confederacy, and racism existed in the north too.  Maybe even more so.

Nope, changing the name would only be spineless...caving in to pressure, attempting to change historical fact in the interest of misguided political correctness.




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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 09:56:49 PM »
Been there, Pretty sharp Museum.

Just from looking around the building I was able to tell the tour guide more about the building then she knew herself.

Got some sharp stuff there though.

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 10:29:13 PM »
Another sure sign of the rapid decline of the entire nation. Haggard was right when he said "rolling down hill like a snowball headed for Hell".
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 11:45:02 PM »
they gonna change the name to teh museum of loosers? lol pwnd & pwnt again

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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2007, 12:06:23 AM »
study the renaming of the "confederate air force" to the "commemorative air force".  Similar interests were at play.  FWIW, I believe I have a fair understanding of the American civil war and the history that led to it and from it.

American blacks see the confederate flag and the symbolism of the confederacy as one of race hatred, slavery and oppression but it was much more than that.  It was a battle of state sovereignty versus federalism. Federalism prevailed. Get over it.  I do believe that as far as flags are concerned, the confederate flag is one of the most beautiful even though I detest the relationship between slavery and the confederacy.  

I believe that the use of the word "confederacy" in relationship to recognizing American history and honoring the sacrifice of so many  Americans must be protected to preserve American heritage.  Leave the museum be.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2007, 01:26:51 AM »
two statues reside on monument avenue in richmond virginia.

one is general lee.  one of the things that i admired most about the reconstruction was that the southerners were allowed to honor their heros.  it's a sign of a culture which can accept its past and embrace its highest truths.

the other is the newest statue on the avenue, that of arthur ashe, the gay tennis player who died of aids.  i am not particularly fond of it being there, and i think that it is in equisitely poor taste, but i am more open to a good "screw you" when done fairly, than a law that says what can and cannot be said and when.

it ruins the effect of the hero worship and it ticks me off.   but its better than tearing down the lee.

it IS the museum of the confederacy.

if you don't like it...build a PC museum complete with fuzzy carpeting next door.

let it be.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2007, 01:34:32 AM »
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one of my two favorite statues reside on monument avenue in richmond virginia.

one is general lee.  one of the things that i admired most about the reconstruction was that the southerners were allowed to honor their heros.  it's a sign of a culture which can accept its past and embrace its highest truths.

the other is the newest statue on the avenue, that of arthur ashe, the gay tennis player who died of aids.  i am not particularly fond of it being there, and i think that it is in equisitely poor taste, but i am more open to a good "screw you" when done fairly, than a law that says what can and cannot be said and when.

it IS the museum of the confederacy.

if you don't like it...build a PC museum complete with fuzzy carpeting next door.

let it be.


Arthur Ashe, married with a daughter, died of Aids contracted from a blood transfusion during one of two heart surgeries he had.  I don't recall anything suggesting he was homosexual.

I'd suggest that he was one of the classier athletes we've ever had.
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2007, 01:35:17 AM »
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Arthur Ashe, married with a daughter, died of Aids contracted from a blood transfusion during one of two heart surgeries he had.  I don't recall anything suggesting he was homosexual.

I'd suggest that he was one of the classier athletes we've ever had.


dernit.  i was tryin to rile em up.

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how about...

"one of the statues is a nude repose of billy jean king and martina navatalova embraced in a hot sexy lesbian love hold."

now go ahead and tell me "that" isnt true.
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2007, 06:22:09 AM »
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they gonna change the name to teh museum of loosers? lol pwnd & pwnt again


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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2007, 07:02:37 AM »
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two statues reside on monument avenue in richmond virginia.

the other is the newest statue on the avenue, that of arthur ashe, the gay tennis player who died of aids.  i am not particularly fond of it being there, and i think that it is in equisitely poor taste, but i am more open to a good "screw you" when done fairly, than a law that says what can and cannot be said and when.

it ruins the effect of the hero worship and it ticks me off.   but its better than tearing down the lee.

 
arthur ashe died from aids which he aquired during a blood transfusion back when militant homosexuals purposefully donated tainted blood prior to the implementation of blood screening.  these acts could be considered some of the first examples of terrorism on American soil.  arthur ashe bore his illness with great dignity and with malice towards none, a true hero and a great American.  frankly I'm surprised you would post something like this, I hope you are trolling.

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2007, 07:21:21 AM »
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