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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2007, 07:47:03 PM »
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When I see a Ki61 trying to attack me, I start to think about what I left off the grocery list, will the O's have a winning season...and why DOES a 8 foot tall Wookie live on Endor, a planet with little teeny Ewoks... It doesnt make SENSE!


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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2007, 07:50:15 PM »
Wookies don't live on Endor, silly! They live on Kashyyk!

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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2007, 08:24:39 PM »
Maybe it's just me but I don't see the Ki-61 as being all that special or even hard to fight against.  Honestly, I've never had a difficult time fighting one in the P-38.  I know if I get one in a slow/stall speed fight, I'm going to come away the winner and if I can get one that is dumb enough to follow me up in the vertical, again, I know I'm going to come out the winner.

Although, my squadron mate Odege swears by it and he is pretty damn good in it.


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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2007, 09:36:47 PM »
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Maybe it's just me but I don't see the Ki-61 as being all that special or even hard to fight against.  Honestly, I've never had a difficult time fighting one in the P-38.  I know if I get one in a slow/stall speed fight, I'm going to come away the winner and if I can get one that is dumb enough to follow me up in the vertical, again, I know I'm going to come out the winner.

Although, my squadron mate Odege swears by it and he is pretty damn good in it.


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Yea but your p-38 has a extra feature it disappears!!! The only time I've fought you, I was turning in on you then next thing you you I lost you.. I 'm like where did he go? Then  two or three secods late I'm getting shot up from my 6..   :cry
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2007, 09:41:19 PM »
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I think the 109/P40 comparison is a bit more apt, at least according to my seatofthepantsometer.
I agree, always felt more 109-like to me vs. spit-like.
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2007, 10:26:03 PM »
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They're not even close.  The Spitfire Mark V has a significantly tighter turn radius, both with flaps and without.


I guess you can't turn the Ki61 good then.   "Significantly"?  I guess it depends on who's flying the 61.   :aok     I'll wax the floor with Spit's in a 61.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2007, 10:40:14 PM »
Masherbrum, look it up on Netaces.  The Spitfire does have a tighter turn (about 15%).  I don't fly the thing but I dogfight it on a regularly basis in my P-38 and, like Ack-Ack, almost always emerge victorious, even when flown by a good pilot.  I kind of feel sorry for those who fly it.  It really is similar to the P-40.

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Wookies don't live on Endor, silly! They live on Kashyyk!


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... Uh, not that I'd know where you got that from.  No, not me.  I just ... uh, oh crud.

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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2007, 10:51:38 PM »
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Masherbrum, look it up on Netaces.  The Spitfire does have a tighter turn (about 15%).  I don't fly the thing but I dogfight it on a regularly basis in my P-38 and, like Ack-Ack, almost always emerge victorious, even when flown by a good pilot.  I kind of feel sorry for those who fly it.  It really is similar to the P-40.


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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2007, 10:52:26 PM »
After reading this thread today I decided to try out the KI-61 for the 2nd time.

My assesment:  It's not a Spit V but it's not a P-40 either.  I'd equate it to a better rolling but slower C.205.

Just my impression after 3 flights and not knowing the plane.
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2007, 11:14:54 PM »
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Yea but your p-38 has a extra feature it disappears!!! The only time I've fought you, I was turning in on you then next thing you you I lost you.. I 'm like where did he go? Then  two or three secods late I'm getting shot up from my 6..   :cry


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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2007, 11:23:57 PM »
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Yea but your p-38 has a extra feature it disappears!!! The only time I've fought you, I was turning in on you then next thing you you I lost you.. I 'm like where did he go? Then  two or three secods late I'm getting shot up from my 6..   :cry


Poor SA on your part does not constitute cheating on ACK-ACK's part.


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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2007, 12:44:48 AM »
Took the 61 up for a few hops this evening, for the first time in ages. I like it, but I still don't think it's spitlike.
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2007, 01:01:15 AM »
The Ki-61 can hold it's own against many planes in the MW arena.  Not enough pilots/action there to drawn me to MW though.

In LW, I've found the Ki-61 a nice diversion at times, although it is outclassed by most planes you'll commonly find there.  I've found it has two functions it can be pretty good at:

Ki-61 probably the best Japanese dive bomber in the game, and maybe one of the best JABOS aside from some very heavy ord carrying planes (jugs, ponies, 38's, etc.).   250 kg GP bombs (551lbs --- 1,102 lbs altogether).   2x20 mm Ho-5 120 rpg.  I've finished off the odd damaged CV or two with Ki-61's.

The slow firing 20mm cannons I've used against GV's with some success (as well as dropping 2 - 551 lbs bombs on them), especially when Flak guns are around the area.  The speed of the Ki-61 has helped in some situations, where slower ground attack planes would get chewed up.

Not sure if the cannon's for Ki-61 have changed in last version or two, last couple anti-GV runs have been less successful than my average.

Can't compare it to a Spit, since I don't fly Spits that often to rate or compare them.  The Klown Kar is a fun ride at times though.

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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2007, 01:18:08 AM »
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Poor SA on your part does not constitute cheating on ACK-ACK's part.


 *crockett* Hey where'd he goooooooooooooo.

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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2007, 01:21:54 AM »
Apologies, took it as another whine.


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