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Offline Helm

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« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2007, 09:00:15 AM »
I have at least 8500 sorties in the Ki-61 ...not one of you has mentioned the one thing the the "Tony" does better then any other plane!  ....since I consider the Ki-61 my secret weapon I wont tell ya!! ....keep fishing!!  :p
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« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2007, 09:12:39 AM »
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Bug, I'm glad you consume chuckling with me.   Because I rarely see you in the Arenas.   :aok    I chuckle at the shades accounts running amok in the BBS and Game these days.   Changing names more than your underwear is a reflection of insecurity, not humor.  :aok

 


And yet another, hehe.  

Flying abilities aside, you should really take a fresh look at yourself.  Based upon what you type, you really aren't the person you believe yourself to be.  More the problem than the solution you are championing.

Thank you.:aok
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« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2007, 09:45:54 AM »
When I grow up I want to be just like masherbum.

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« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2007, 10:30:19 AM »
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not one of you has mentioned the one thing the the "Tony" does better then any other plane!


Fly under the radar, figuratively speaking. :p It's better than most give it credit for. The only thing keeping it from dweeb plane status is the lack of 300-400hp. Ki-100 anyone?

On a serious note Helm, what I think it does better than just about anything else is turn at medium speeds i.e. 200-250mph, or just under speeds that would start to cause blackouts. This is why Karaya and others claim to out turn Spitfires and N1Ks etc, and it is also why testing of it's sustained turning abilities produces underwhelming results in relation to the afore mentioned planes. It just doesn't have enough engine power to compete in that sort of test. I've seen it referred to as a bobsled and this isn't a bad analogy. As long as you have a little alt to convert into speed you can give anything a hard time. Get on the deck in a lufbery against one of the good turners and, as WW said, you're toast.

I'd really like to see an EM diagram for the Ki-61. Might be educational.

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« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2007, 11:41:01 AM »
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The only thing keeping it from dweeb plane status is the lack of 300-400hp. Ki-100 anyone?


There is no difference between the Ki 100 and Ki 61 in performance.  The only difference is the engine layout (Ki 61 uses a Bf 109E engine, Ki 100 uses a radial engine that makes the same power) and the improved reliability on Ki-100

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« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2007, 12:57:17 PM »
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There is no difference between the Ki 100 and Ki 61 in performance.  The only difference is the engine layout (Ki 61 uses a Bf 109E engine, Ki 100 uses a radial engine that makes the same power) and the improved reliability on Ki-100
That's incorrect.  The Ki-61-I modeled in AH has an 1175hp Kawasaki Ha-40, a license built copy of a DB-601. The Ki-100 has a Mitsubishi Ha-112-II 14 cyl. radial rated at 1500hp. 325hp more than the Ha-40. In addition the radial installation made the Ki-100 lighter than the Ki-61-I by approximately 200lbs. Yes the increased frontal area reduced top speed to 360mph but every other aspect of performance was improved. Less weight +more power= better climb, accel, and turn.

You're thinking of the Ki-61-II, which we don't have. That was powered by a further refinement of the Ha-40 designated Ha-140 and rated at 1500hp. Again performance of the 61-II and 100 were not equal. The -II had a top speed of roughly 380mph and weighed 800 pounds more than than the Ki-100.