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Offline Angus

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« Reply #345 on: August 07, 2007, 07:29:28 AM »
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Easy enough to bypass the question.
Too scary?


Would you rephrase the question?

And as for many of Retro's suggestions, - quite workable, and definately tryable. Since some here seem to think nothing should be tried at all untill an equilibrum of free market and scarce oil brings us to a grinding energy crisis, I rather side with trying various alternatives. After all, most of the energy we use is wasted.
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« Reply #346 on: August 07, 2007, 08:02:12 AM »
This guy is funnier than me (but I was first) so I thought you might like to read it... especially since if it is in a newspaper... it is gospel to you.

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/8921432.html

I am glad more people are starting to come right out and say it... even if it causes the "flagulants"  to go into attack mode.   Bet old Vin would get a kick out of this BB huh?

Bet he gets a few irate letters to the editor from the "man made c02 will end life as we know it" crowd.

lazs
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« Reply #347 on: August 07, 2007, 08:13:36 AM »
angus.. read my new thread to beetle...er... retro.. Old Vin is talking about coal but the idea is the same.

If beets little 2nd grader diagram would save the planet from (LOL) the co2 menace... and make money for someone... we would/will be doing it.

lazs
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« Reply #348 on: August 07, 2007, 08:27:15 AM »
thank you akiron...

yep.. he is getting into it again but only to say..."I am right and you are wrong and it is because I have secret truths that only someone in my super secret identity would know"

come off it.   I work in the field of pollution and have for about 20 years of my life.  I work with labs and know how data is manipulated... I know how government agencies that people would think are scientific (like the epa) are merely run by boards and cater to political and extremeist environmental groups who themselves... are nothing but a group of shark lawyers using the environment to win huge settlements.   You would have to be a fool to not question the process.

read some of the links.. read the link to surface stations.. read the others...  try to read things that don't preach to your choir.  ask yourself why the data just doesn't add up.. why the satalite data doesn't agree with the surface stations... why it gets colder when the co2 doomsdayers say that it should only get hotter.

don't breath a sigh of relief when one BBC article by their "environmental editor" digs up a study that shows suns brightness (not activity) is down a bit  (along with global temp oddly) and that "proves" that co2 is the only thing we should be looking at... the only profitable one that is... ain't no money in doing something about the sun...

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« Reply #349 on: August 07, 2007, 08:29:29 AM »
angus... yes... but guess what...  our desert areas aren't growing they are shrinking.   we have less not more.  and.... during every ice age...

The land that was under all those glaciers was just like what is under the current ones... useless and lifeless... for a time.

Nope... warm to hot is better than cold to freezing every time.

lazs
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« Reply #350 on: August 07, 2007, 08:38:45 AM »
:lol Retro=PNG
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« Reply #351 on: August 07, 2007, 09:48:24 AM »
Ok. Lazs, I think you need to look at the globe.
Warming=desert areas expanding around the middle.
Temperate areas retreating northwards as well as southwards.
Caps melting means raised sea levels. That means that actually some of the finest cropland in the world will be submerged.
Returned areas: Sea and barren land, as well as the N-Siberian swamps.
Guess you wanna there huh? Cos that's probably the only + return. Except from the emitting methane that makes our CO2 emission look puny.

BTW, reading the headlines today:
From WTO and confirmed by the IPCC, - Weather extremities are actually peaking. Average temps are higher for about 1.8 or so into 4+ degs Celcius, on areas as large as continents.
But that is, as I have pointed out, not as truly a mass as the Ice melting or the mass of oceans warming despite the cold ice finally mixing with it.
Second one was that apparently the Warming debate is not such a big debate as previously thought, since MOST scientists seem to agree upon it, as well as those who don't mostly seem to have a $$$ link to the biggest carbon-related companies.

Shocking, isn't it? And what a surprize....
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« Reply #352 on: August 07, 2007, 09:51:20 AM »
Read that silly article. What team is afraid to face the enemy......?
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« Reply #353 on: August 07, 2007, 10:23:00 AM »
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and make money for someone


Life isn't all about money. And here's a question for you Lazs, would you drill for oil in Alaska and ruin what little wilderness we have left? Cause possible extinctions of animals, ruin the lives of the natives there? Destroy migratory patterns? The world doesn't belong to us to destroy.
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« Reply #354 on: August 07, 2007, 12:12:22 PM »
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angus.. read my new thread to beetle...er... retro.. Old Vin is talking about coal but the idea is the same.

If beets little 2nd grader diagram would save the planet from (LOL) the co2 menace... and make money for someone... we would/will be doing it.

lazs


Would we?
There is big and fast bucks fighting against it. For now.
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« Reply #355 on: August 07, 2007, 12:17:07 PM »
Which team has shown conclusive proof?
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« Reply #356 on: August 07, 2007, 12:17:18 PM »
BTW, I looked into your other post, read and replied.
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« Reply #357 on: August 07, 2007, 01:29:59 PM »
About what? Whether it's warming GLOBALLY perhaps?

At least one team has shown positive proof of being wrong again and again.
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« Reply #358 on: August 07, 2007, 02:04:47 PM »
Yes, yes, it's established that it's getting warmer.

Yes, yes, it's established that humans add to the warmth.

But has it been clearly established that ...

You know what...I don't want to go down this path because I believe I know your response anyway.

With that...Good Day!
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« Reply #359 on: August 07, 2007, 02:06:24 PM »
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:lol Retro=PNG


Like the bad case of fungus he is, he will be back.
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