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Offline Excel1

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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2007, 02:39:02 AM »
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What if the life itself was an accident...  Would that make a murder not murder?

What if you really really really meant it.  Like it was some sort of cause or higher calling.  Would it matter if the other guy wanted to kill you but just didn't have the chance?

Or what if the other guy really really wanted you dead, and you were pretty much ambivalent about the whole thing, but you killed him before he got the chance to kill you or someone else.  

Is it murder, killing someone else just because they wanted to kill you?  Or does it make you BOTH murderers, since you never would have killed him if he didn't want to kill you first?  Or does that make it a murder-suicide?  Because if so, a lot of people are gonna get busted because it's against the law to assist suicide.


If as you say, he really really wanted you dead, and in the scenario of say-  a stalker, someone who obviously is sick in the head, someone that is virtually anonymous to you, a coward that you have never even meet face to face, but has made death threats over an extended period of time, including half arsed threats with guns from long distance... killing him would be self defence.

Apart from the extended time frame between the events I honestly do not see the difference between killing someone in the situation that I just described and killing an intruder who broke into my home and threatened me with a weapon. In either situation why should I have to risk taking it up the arse? The home invader would just die sooner. As for the stalker, if his fugged up mental state gave me the opportunity or he stops moving long enough, I'll take the shot

morally: I say self defence. Others may disagree.

legally:I don't really give a fug, but you take your chances. Even an assault charge can be sucsessfully defended if extreme provocation can be shown to have caused the assault.

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« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2007, 05:42:51 AM »
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Meh.

Meat is murder.


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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2007, 07:57:28 AM »
excel is correct again.

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« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2007, 04:27:28 PM »
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Killing is my business, and business is good!!!




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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2007, 03:38:54 PM »
By the way, my CPID is spelled that way because I was conserving "E" when I created it.

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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2007, 06:38:30 PM »
I was educated recently on this very forum recently. Apparently the sixth commandment was mistranslated as 'Thou shalt not kill' whereas in fact is should read 'You shall not murder'.

Thus you can kill enemies, execute prisoners, drop atomic bombs, defend yourself or others, start wars, plant bombs and generally create mayhem and destruction etc etc without any fear of retribution as long as it's not personal.

On the other hand if you murder someone for personal gain or pleasure it's murder and you are in big trouble.

Killing, therefore is pretty much OK even laudable.

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« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2007, 07:30:15 AM »
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Originally posted by Yeager
I am inspired to wit:

How many roads most a man walk down
Before you call him a man ?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

Yes, how many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea ?
Yes, how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free ?
Yes, how many times can a man turn his head
Pretending he just doesn't see ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

Yes, how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky ?
Yes, how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry ?
Yes, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.



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« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2007, 10:07:36 AM »
cpx.. killing is often a very good thing... murder is not.  even a soldier can murder.. often they are brought up on charges over it... in U.S. armies of course... others... not so much.

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