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Offline titanic3

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« on: March 05, 2007, 08:07:04 PM »
can you guys answer these questions for me a bit.

what's better a...

fw190D or Ta152

Ki84 or KI61

Ki67 or Ju88

Ju87 or the Val bomber

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2007, 08:16:53 PM »
I think you'll have to be a bit more specific as to the term "better".  "Better" at doing what?  And did you mean in-game or IRL?
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2007, 08:26:50 PM »
D9
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88
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2007, 08:46:47 PM »
Ki-67 is faster and carries bigger guns, with better arcs of fire. As good of a bomb load. Hands down better than a Ju-88.

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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2007, 08:58:34 PM »
Squire,

Look again. The Ju88 carries a heavier bomb load than a B-17. Ki-67 carries less than any late war U.S. fighter.

Defensive armament and performance goes to the Ki-67, though.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2007, 09:05:03 PM »
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Ki-67 is faster and carries bigger guns, with better arcs of fire. As good of a bomb load. Hands down better than a Ju-88.


Incorrect. The maximum loadout of the Ki-67 is 800kg~1,764lbs of ordinance.

The maximum loadout of the Ju.88A-4 in game is  3000kg~6,614lbs of ordinance.

A formation of Ju.88A-4s can carry in ordinance the equivalent of 3.75 formations of Ki.67s.


The differences in speed and survivability would have to be far more extreme than they are to even make a comparison of the two.

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2007, 09:09:42 PM »
I would say more folks would choose the Ki-67 if rtbing was a real issue, but its not with many.

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Re: whats the better plane?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2007, 11:01:26 PM »
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Originally posted by titanic3
can you guys answer these questions for me a bit.

what's better a...

fw190D or Ta152

Ki84 or KI61

Ki67 or Ju88

Ju87 or the Val bomber


152
61
88
Val

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2007, 03:54:48 PM »
D9 (unless you have talent, then its the 152)
84
67 (best defence but worse bombload)
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2007, 05:53:43 PM »
I see Ju-88s and think "Lunch!"

Ki-67s give me a little more pause 'cause of that 20mm right in my favorite approach angle (vertical drop from above). Especially if there's the possibility Triple 9's is the gunner...
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2007, 10:45:36 PM »
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Better is a very relative term.  Better "for what"?

fw190D or Ta152  ---  Ta152 better at very high altitudes esp vs bombers. Dora just a nice luffenwobble plane all around.

Ki84 or KI61 --- Ki-84 is my preferred Turn Fighter.  Ki-61 I actually use as a dive bomber and patrol GV spawns in if Flak keep knocking my IL-2 out from under me.  Hard to compare these two together, different strengths for each.

Ki67 or Ju88 --- Ki-67.  My favorite tool for killing CV's.  Also decent vs GV attacks, or knocking out several ord or radar at several fields.  A single Ki-67 can be sort of flown as a WWII version of Vietnam "Spooky" gunship.  Circle an area with many smaller eggs and that 20mm cannon to harass enemy GV's, pop light vehicles, and play spotter for friendly GV's.  
Ju88 just a means to kill close strat factories and cities when interception probability is low.  Will give good buff perks..... if you like the Arado.

Ju87 or the Val bomber  --  massed Stuka raids can be fun.  Val....at least it's better than the Kate.  Judy would be better still.  But if I'm dive bombing, I'll grab a Ki-61 first.

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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2007, 11:25:09 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2007, 12:30:08 AM »
Ta-152,
Ju-88
Ju-87

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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 12:39:00 AM »
Spit mk.1:aok



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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 09:04:46 AM »
Ki-67 has rather light load for most work. But its speed makes up for a lot of it. Much more survivable IMO than the ju-88 in the main.

Ju-88 has better load, is more flexible, (dive brakes) but its defensive guns bite. Like anything else depends on what your trying to accomplish and how badly you want to land.


Ju-87 = great vs vehicles.
D3a1 val = Well I love the val, what can I say. :)
It may be worthless as a bomber, but it is a wonderful trainer Aircraft.
Its a joy to fly just for flying sake. It will turn with any plane in the game, yes even the A6m2 if you use flaps. It has popguns, but they have a near endless supply of ammo for them.

The real joy of flying the val in combat is suckering other bigger, faster, better armed planes into turning with you. Ping them once or twice, then fly them into a hill or sucker them into a split S so they lawndart.

There is no feeling in the world like landing 2 kills in a val vs late war aircraft.