Originally posted by Uriah
I am sure outside views would ruin the game for many of you. Just no need to 'ruin' it for me. I use outside views for situation awareness and help in spotting where I am in relation to an opponent. When I am chasing or running away I am in the cockpit with spit second 'looks' from the outside view to my opponent (or just where is the ground?). It's those split second looks that give me a much better sense of where I am in the virtual world. I take the old stand that such looks give a virtual pilot a closer sense of what is going on as a real pilot in a real plane would have. I am not alone in this view. One of my friends is a long time pilot and a sim player and he holds this view too. I am not saying you all are wrong, just let me have what I want. You can have what you want too.
I don't have time to play many of these games. I have to pick one and get good at it. As I have said before, AH has some things I really like. That is why I bother.
By the way, those of you who like the 'inside only' play, how long can you have a 'knife fight'?
First of all your in a loosing arguement from the start. Might as well give it up now cause there is no way your getting an arena with outside views available in fighters in any of the MAs. HTC has already made that pretty clear
Secondly, While it may have some aspects of arcadish type play. (usually player generated) This isnt an arcade game. Its a combat simulation. IRL dont get an external view unless you bail out.. Same goes here.
Thirdly Yes having an external view would give you a closer sense of where you are in relation to your opponent. But it would also give you a closer view then you would have as an actual pilot inasmuch as actual pilots dont have an external view. While in some planes. the view in some planes like the 109s and 190s from the inside may leave a bit something to be desired by and large Actual pilot get the same views as you get in the game. Meaning you cant see through solid objects such as the nose of the aircraft, the fuselage, and wings to see whats on the other side and where. Which is exactly what you would get if you had external views.
Fourthly You can call it an "old stand" all you want. But having external views gives you not the same sense as a real pilot would have. but an added sense that real pilots dont have. Because.... Shhhh dont tell anyone this secret now.
They cant see what it looks like from the outside from the inside of an aircraft
Not anymore then having an external view in an arcade car game gives you a better feel of what its like to drive a car it doesnt. Trust me I've driven cars for over 20 years now I know what it feels like to be driving from inside one . And I've played some of those games.
Viewing from the outside in no way,shape or form gives you a sense of what its like to actually drive a car nearly as much as it does from playing the game with an inside view only.
that being said. your "friend" is either
(a)- Not a real pilot
(b) - A complete idiot
(c)- Both
You can let him choose
Bottom line is if you really want to have external views. Your only available options are as have already been mentioned , The training arena, one of the free H2YH arenas. Or one of the other games that does allow it.
If you want to get a sense for what a real pilot has the ability and inability to sense. Then fly the MA and leanr how to and get used to having to have your head on a pivot and to leanr ot get a sense of perspective and just where you are in relation to other things just like the honest to goodness real pilots did.
BTW. there is a little guage in your cockpit called an altimeter. Works rather well in telling you how high off the ground is when the ground is not in view .
When the ground is visable a good rule of thumb is "when ground objects (trees, bushes,Buildings etc) are large. Ground is near.. When ground objects are small. Ground it far.
When in level flight your looking out of your cockpit and the trees are large and your looking up at them. Your too lo.....(Crash)
