Author Topic: Along with Wes's post...  (Read 875 times)

Offline JB35

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 548
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2007, 03:09:24 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You're not going to get any better by doing what you're doing.  Learn ACM and tactics and you won't have to jump in a N1K2 to "seek revenge".


ack-ack


but you would have to come down out of the AckAckosphere first  :aok

Offline Ack-Ack

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 25260
      • FlameWarriors
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2007, 03:42:51 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by JB35
but you would have to come down out of the AckAckosphere first  :aok



I would if I didn't have to chase you up there as you run away.


ack-ack
"If Jesus came back as an airplane, he would be a P-38." - WW2 P-38 pilot
Elite Top Aces +1 Mexican Official Squadron Song

Offline Wes14

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2996
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2007, 03:46:41 PM »
does anyone have a move that cold help me and mt P-38 help win a dogfight against my friend and his spit14?:aok

only way i seem to win if i send him for a ride thru the trees (actually diving to 2 feet above ground and dodge trees)

most of the time he hits a tree:noid
Warning! The above post may induce: nausea, confusion, headaches, explosive diarrhea, anger, vomiting, and whining. Also this post may not make any sense, or may lead to the hijack of the thread.

-Regards,
Wes14

Offline JB35

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 548
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2007, 04:27:11 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I would if I didn't have to chase you up there as you run away.


ack-ack


Ohhhh AckAck you crack me up bud  :aok

Offline quintv

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 188
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2007, 05:40:12 PM »
47s are crap take mustangs :aok

Offline Spikes

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15834
    • Twitch: Twitch Feed
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2007, 06:00:48 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by quintv
47s are crap take mustangs :aok



*AHEM*
P-47s were one of the best Fighter/Attack planes in WWII
i7-12700k | Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 | EVGA 1080ti FTW3 | H150i Capellix

FlyKommando.com

Offline Widewing

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8801
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2007, 09:24:49 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by OOZ662
http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=p47d11&p2=p47d25&p3=p47d40&p4=p47n


Okay, here's actual test data on the four P-47s. All planes flying with 25% fuel, zero burn. Each armed with 8 guns, but the standard ammo load of 267 rounds per gun (as actually used for most WWII missions), not the max load. This is what I fly with 90% of the time.

Acceleration, 150 mph to 200 mph at 100 feet ASL. Measured in seconds.

P-47D-11: 11.09
P-47D-25: 10.83
P-47D-40: 10.12
P-47N: 10.44

Acceleration, 150 mph to 300 mph at 100 feet ASL. Measured in seconds.
Drag is a bigger factor in this test.

P-47D-11: 54.84
P-47D-25: 55.27
P-47D-40: 51.66
P-47N: 45.68

Max speed at sea level, MIL power.

P-47D-11: 335 mph
P-47D-25: 332 mph
P-47D-40: 333 mph
P-47N: 329 mph

Max speed at sea level, Combat Power (WEP).

P-47D-11: 345 mph
P-47D-25: 343 mph
P-47D-40: 344 mph
P-47N: 367 mph

Max speed at 30,000 feet., Combat Power (WEP).

P-47D-11: 436 mph
P-47D-25: 434 mph
P-47D-40: 438 mph
P-47N: 476 mph

Time to climb to 10,000 feet, beginning at 150 mph, measured in minutes:seconds.hundredths of seconds.

P-47D-11: 3:07.02
P-47D-25: 2:57.40
P-47D-40: 2:44.10
P-47N: 2:50.06

As a side note, at 40,000 feet, the P-47N can attain 455 mph.

At 30,000 feet and above, the P-47s are superb. The P-47N is faster at 40k than the Bf 109K-4 is at its best altitude, which is just 22k. It's important to remember that at high altitude, maneuverability is almost totally dependent upon reserve horsepower. Up there, your indicated airspeed is the one thing you must watch carefully. For example, at 32,000 feet, the Fw 190A-8 can barely do 210 mph IAS. That's not very fast and the 190A series were not good performers up that high. However, it is vital to understand that when turning at just 2g, the 190A-8 will stall at 170 mph IAS. Think about that; max speed and stall speed are separated by just 40 mph IAS. There's little margin for error when flying the 190A-8 up high. In contrast, the P-47D-40 can attain 260 mph IAS at 32k, giving it a huge advantage in maneuverability as it has the power to turn at 4g and not lose altitude or risk a stall and subsequent spin. You should also note that the P-47D-40 climbs 3 times faster than the 190A-8 at 32k.

So, you may ask, "why this is significant?" When Combat Tour debuts, the first tour will be ETO based. This means that the Luftwaffe will be defending against Allied heavy bombers. The B-24s typically flew between 24k and 26k, with the B-17s often flying higher, up to 28k. Escort fighters will be well above the bombers, at least as high as 30k, and often higher. Thus, fighter vs fighter combat will begin at very high altitudes. So, while not significant to MA combat, high altitude combat will very much be the standard fare in Combat Tour.

Anyone who intends to fly Combat Tour should start practicing high alt combat now. Load the TA map for offline play. Fly from one of the two 30k bases (launch on the NE runway, as the others spawn as air starts at various locations). Climb out and attack the drones. You will find this very challenging to accomplish. Thus, you will experience that high alt combat is very different from furballing down low.

The Aces High Trainers will holding high alt combat clinics at least once a month until CT debuts, and probably after too. Our first clinic will be held on Friday, March 16 at 9 PM Eastern in the Training Arena. Take advantage of this opportunity to get some experience before CT is released.

My regards,

Widewing
My regards,

Widewing

YGBSM. Retired Member of Aces High Trainer Corps, Past President of the DFC, retired from flying as Tredlite.

Offline SFRT - Frenchy

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5420
      • http://home.CFL.rr.com/rauns/menu.htm
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2007, 04:02:28 PM »
P47s suck!:(
Dat jugs bro.

Terror flieger since 1941.
------------------------

Offline wstpt10

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 87
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2007, 04:14:46 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
P47s suck!:(


Lies!

Offline SFRT - Frenchy

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5420
      • http://home.CFL.rr.com/rauns/menu.htm
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2007, 04:37:55 PM »
LW owns P47s!
Dat jugs bro.

Terror flieger since 1941.
------------------------

Offline hubsonfire

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8658
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2007, 05:48:51 PM »
P47 is teh awesome bomnberz!
mook
++Blue Knights++

Proper punctuation and capitalization go a long way towards people paying attention to your posts.  -Stoney
I was wondering why I get ignored so often.  -Hitech

Offline SFRT - Frenchy

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5420
      • http://home.CFL.rr.com/rauns/menu.htm
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2007, 05:52:28 PM »
P47s are for spit16 pilots that want to sink a CV.
Dat jugs bro.

Terror flieger since 1941.
------------------------

Offline Spikes

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15834
    • Twitch: Twitch Feed
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2007, 07:15:36 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
P47s are for spit16 pilots that want to sink a CV.


p-47s are the harder planes to fly...Ill fight you in it...
i7-12700k | Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 | EVGA 1080ti FTW3 | H150i Capellix

FlyKommando.com

Offline TequilaChaser

  • AH Training Corps - Retired
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10173
      • The Damned - founded by Ptero in 1988
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2007, 07:34:17 PM »
quote:Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
    P47s are for spit16 pilots that want to sink a CV.



p-47s are the harder planes to fly...Ill fight you in it...






ewhh   Frenchy, got you a live one there..........better set that hook ;)
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

Offline SFRT - Frenchy

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5420
      • http://home.CFL.rr.com/rauns/menu.htm
Along with Wes's post...
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2007, 10:02:01 PM »
Ow! Tingely ... Set the time Spike. Shuuuttt  Tequila don't make him check my stats before I fight him :p

« Last Edit: March 10, 2007, 10:04:27 PM by SFRT - Frenchy »
Dat jugs bro.

Terror flieger since 1941.
------------------------