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Are Bomber Kills not being recorded
« on: March 13, 2007, 08:18:53 PM »
All,  two days ago i shot down a 262 and a 163 in the same run when i was on a bomber mission  neither one showed up on my bomber stats in the kills section is there a scoring problem with bomber kills????
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Re: Are Bomber Kills not being recorded
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 08:22:47 PM »
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All,  two days ago i shot down a 262 and a 163 in the same run when i was on a bomber mission  neither one showed up on my bomber stats in the kills section is there a scoring problem with bomber kills????


Stats page says you have 2 kills in B24. Stats page further says you killed 1 Me 262 & 1 Me 163.
Score page says you have 2 kills in bombers...so I don't see the problem yet.

EDIT: The ingame .score command fails to show your kills though. But as you can see above, they are still recorded & used for score purposes.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 10:07:17 PM »
I had the same type of thing happen several times.  I was in 24s, got 3 kills in one sortie, buffer announced 3 kills as I recall, when I checked score later on roster, they weren't there.  
Who knows.  It does seem to happen with bomber kills some.  Maybe they show up later or something.

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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 10:55:35 PM »
As far as I know the only thing that shows up in game for kills in a bomber is if you egg someone.
All other kills are recorded on the website
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 11:05:05 PM »
I believe "scores" are updated all at the same time on the "score" page.  Some time in the middle of the night, not cumulatively.


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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 11:06:33 PM »
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I believe "scores" are updated all at the same time on the "score" page.  Some time in the middle of the night, not cumulatively.


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Scores are updated after each flight. It's the ranks that are updated once per day only. Stats are updated real-time.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 06:13:01 AM »
Lusche is essentially correct.  I will be adding more verbage about this to the various rank/stat/score pages on the WEB page.

But there may be some data mixed in the charts from the real-time data and the data which is adjusted daily.  This needs clarification and I will be doing so soon.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2007, 06:29:02 AM »
It has always been my understanding that if mission is scored as 'bomber' anyone ya kill with eggs doesnt count?
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 09:54:30 AM »
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Lusche is essentially correct.  I will be adding more verbage about this to the various rank/stat/score pages on the WEB page.

But there may be some data mixed in the charts from the real-time data and the data which is adjusted daily.  This needs clarification and I will be doing so soon.


But Skuzzy, why do your air to air bomber kills show up in your stats on the web-site (score/rank) and in your expanded kill stats but not in your stats when you check your score in-game.  Basically their on the web-site but not in the game.

I've always wondered about that.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 10:20:05 AM »
IINM, you only receive credit in scoring for the guys you kill with bombs in bomber mode. The kills from the gun positions show up in the stats, but I didn't think they were lumped in with your bomber scoring, which is the data that appears in game.

I'm not positive on this, but that seems to be the way it works.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 12:56:06 PM »
hey thanks guys for the the answers i appreciate it i was really stoked for shooting down those jets, i purdy much suck as a gunner lol
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2007, 01:25:57 PM »
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But Skuzzy, why do your air to air bomber kills show up in your stats on the web-site (score/rank) and in your expanded kill stats but not in your stats when you check your score in-game.  Basically their on the web-site but not in the game.

I've always wondered about that.
There are three categories.  Score, Stats, and Ranks.  They are all derived from different sources, to some degree.  For instance, a bomber killing a fighter gets a stat entry, but no score entry.

Also, kills are recorded the instant they happen, which can show up in your stats.  But, the sortie is not scored until it is ended (remember, scores and stats are different), and you score will not include any fighter kills in a bomber.

I am not sure what HiTech shows in the game as it relates to score/rank/stats.  I only know about the WEB site, and I am probably pretty iffy on it.  :D
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 03:30:13 PM »
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IINM, you only receive credit in scoring for the guys you kill with bombs in bomber mode. The kills from the gun positions show up in the stats, but I didn't think they were lumped in with your bomber scoring, which is the data that appears in game.

I'm not positive on this, but that seems to be the way it works.


I practically NEVER kill guys with eggs from b24's, but I get a fair amount of kills from tail gun, which always show in score from web page--truely not sure about what happens with eggs-- although not counting them might curb the dweeb-hordes in the deck lancs fragging tanks
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2007, 03:44:00 PM »
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For instance, a bomber killing a fighter gets a stat entry, but no score entry.

 


ehmm.... if i do shoot down a fighter whith my buff guns,  it does show on score. If i kill a GV with bombs, it does not (but still on stats, of course).
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2007, 03:59:18 PM »
It may be an issue of semantics Lusche.  I can assure you a bomber sortie killing a fighter plane will only be logged in the stats pages and will not generate anything towards the scores.

If you look at the bomber sortie category in the pilot scores of the WEB page, there is not a place for kills to be counted.  All other categories get kill points.

When you say score, I think points awarded.  There are no points awarded for bomber sortie kills.
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