Help me with a definition

[Kieran]

C'mon, guys, stay on course.

My main concern on this board is the way a discussion goes from "discussing" to "shout-down" mode. The point I tried to make is throwing key phrases out will end any thread with a lockdown.

The overuse of those words has rendered them nearly devoid of impact or meaning. Sadly, that is a reflection of our society, so I am seriously wondering if people really know what the word/words mean as they use them.

This thread will head anywhere you make it Curval. I can't stop you. I'm hoping you take the high road.

[Catalyst]

a few online...

Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant "an excessively devoted or hypocritical person." Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense "a superstitious hypocrite."


bigot  

1598, from M.Fr. bigot, from O.Fr., supposedly a derogatory name for Normans, the old theory (not universally accepted) being that it springs from their frequent use of O.E. oath bi God. Plausible, since the Eng. were known as whoopees in Joan of Arc's France, and during World War I Americans serving in France were said to be known as les sommobiches (see also son of a *****). But the earliest Fr. use of the word (12c.) is as the name of a people apparently in southern Gaul. The earliest Eng. sense is of "religious hypocrite," especially a female one, and may be influenced by beguine. Sense extended 1687 to other than religious opinions.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

bigot
A person who is religiously attached to a particular computer, language, operating system, editor, or other tool (see religious issues). Usually found with a specifier; thus, "Cray bigot", "ITS bigot", "APL bigot", "VMS bigot", "Berkeley bigot". Real bigots can be distinguished from mere partisans or zealots by the fact that they refuse to learn alternatives even when the march of time and/or technology is threatening to obsolete the favoured tool. It is truly said "You can tell a bigot, but you can't tell him much." Compare weenie.
[The Jargon File]


The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2007 Denis Howe

[lazs2]

kieran... I can tell you that I think the word is pretty much meaningless.

every group has attached some meaning to it to suit their purposes but it is essentially meaningless.

If you insist on assigning any meaning to it then it would have to be that it describes the human condition.   that it is a part of being human and in every single human.   It is not a bad thing or a good thing in and of itself but can be either.

every single one of us is a bigot about something... often for very good reasons.

I am a bigot against child molesters or torturers or rapists for instance.

I also believe that there are physical and mental racial traits.    

Both of these beliefs make me a bigot in the strictest sense and by someones defenition.

lazs

[BTW]

More often than not its an ethnocentric person. But ethnocentric doesn't have the teeth of the word bigot, so bigot is used more. Still , bigot doesn't have the teeth as racist, so racist is used when things get really hot.

But more often than not, its simply a person who feels that his culture is the way the world was meant to be and resists attempts to change him.

[Toad]

Originally posted by john9001
a bigot is someone you disagree with.

I think the O-Club definition would be someone who disagrees with you.

[straffo]

A person who look at the world only using his dogma(s) .

[storch]

I looked up the word bigot and all I saw was a photo of some guy in pink shorts carrying an attache case.  That can't be correct, can it?

[Jackal1]

Definition that seems to be followed here on this board is......anyone who doesn`t bow down to PCness ........or actualy has the cajones to stick to their beliefs, PC crowd be damned.




Local 101

[Saintaw]

My french dictionary says this:




Saw - (malicious Saw)

[Jackal1]

Saw da man.

[BTW]

nuns with mannequin legs?

[moot]

The definition of a word is not made by its practical useage statistics... some people don't synthesize ideas into speech, so much as repeat patterns they've accepted as meaning what they think.
Our vocabulary would have to be a lot richer to express all the hues and subtle nuances each person intends to say.

[namvet]

We usually just call them Republicans.

[jhookt]

my grandpa said it like this:

A bigot is a man who doesn't like another man for a reason, whether it be a good reason or a bad reason

he then went on to say that:

a bigot is a bigot but a racist is white

[Maverick]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
As opposed to a racist who does judge others based on observable fact?

Not to totally disagree with you but I think there is a bit missing from the little bit you listed. I would rather it say something this:

 as opposed to an individual who draws inappropriate conclusions based on irrelevent and or misinterpreted data they believe to be facts.

This is more in line with the emotionally charged word of bigot.