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« Reply #165 on: June 06, 2007, 10:59:14 AM »
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I went to a Ron Paul meetup in Dallas last night. I think the biggest problem Congressman Paul is going to have are his biggest supporters. The quicker he can start to move his base away from the fringes the better his chances. Last night we had people from the Green party to former neo-cons, to borderline anarchists. I believe I was the only one there with Experience on Capitol Hill, and the only Poli-sci degree in the room...

Oi, we've got a long way to go and less than a year to get there.

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The Concord meetup group is an interesting mix too...  :)  Not quite as fringe as you make the Dallas group sound, but the fringe-types are there.  That's not really suprising though, it's pretty much the libertarians/independants who supported RP from the get go and are trying to "convert" the more traditional GOP-types...   I would dare to say though, that his diverse support is a good thing.  Those are people who will vote GOP who wouldn't necessarily do so otherwise, myself included.  We DO have a long way to go though, I agree with you and have said as much.  Getting his message out is what he needs help with, 'cause the MSM seems to love to ignore him.  Something about Freedom must scare them...

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Yep..  panning out into the crowd of all those sensible pot heads is not gonna go over that well in the heartlands..

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I was at the pre-debate rally yesterday at the St. Anslem campus in Manchester.   The crowd of Ron Paul supporters was certainly not just a bunch of "sensible pot heads".  The various camps looked very similar, sure there were more hippie/biker/blue collar/redneck looking types in the RP crowd than in the others, but for the most part you couldn't tell the difference in the way the different camps looked other than by the signs they were carrying and the slogans they were yelling.  (and the fact that a few of the RP supporters were open-carrying... :)  I LOVE NH!)  There was almost as many RP supporters there as there were for all the other candidates combined, and we were LOUD!  :D  

After the rally we went to Murphy's Tap Room in downtown Manch (owned by a local libertarian, btw...) as a group to watch the debate.  There was 200-300 people in there, it was crazy.  RP showed up around 11, was great to finally meet him.  I'll post some pics/vid when I get a chance (need to buy a data cable to get the pics off my phone...)

The only group I'd say "hurts" RP, IMHO, is the truthers.  They're pretty agressive in trying to spread their opinions on 9-11 and have a way of really turning people off.  As to the rest, isn't cross-party/platform suport a good thing?  That's more voters who will vote agains Hillary...

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« Reply #166 on: June 06, 2007, 07:06:05 PM »
Post-debate interview on Tucker Carlson....

"I hope you can come on more regular; if just to give us a tutorial on what it means to be free. Thank you Dr Paul"  -Tucker Carlson

good stuff!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mb7aiM9K9Q
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« Reply #167 on: June 06, 2007, 07:17:52 PM »
The more interviews I see him do, the more I like him.

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« Reply #168 on: June 06, 2007, 07:22:02 PM »
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The more interviews I see him do, the more I like him.

Keep posting Bsd.

thanks Xargos, comments like yours make the flak worth it.  I have no intention of stopping my RP updates, skuzzy would have to ban me to get me to stop...  :)
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« Reply #169 on: June 06, 2007, 08:05:24 PM »
very good (and not too long) old article by Dr. Paul on foreign aid I just came across.  The last paragraph says it all...
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Foreign aid is not only unconstitutional, but also exceedingly unwise. It creates the worst kind of entangling alliances that President Washington warned about. It doesn't buy us any real allies, but instead encourages false friendships, dependency, and a sense of entitlement among the recipients. It also causes resentment among nations that receive none, or less than they feel they deserve. Above all, however, it is simply unconscionable to tax American citizens and send their money overseas. We have enough problems of our own here at home, and those dollars should be returned to taxpayers or spent on legitimate constitutional activities.

Buying Friends With Foreign Aid
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« Reply #170 on: June 06, 2007, 08:15:13 PM »
oh, and how silly of me to forget these...  

RP's 6.5 minutes from last nights debate - http://youtube.com/watch?v=8_BjK1QqDOo

RP on the Daily Show 6/4/07 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-y5nbLrrnk
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Reagan on Ron Paul (and libertarianism)
« Reply #171 on: June 07, 2007, 09:13:05 AM »
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is." -- Ronald Reagan

"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." -- U.S. President Ronald Wilson Reagan

While much has been made that Dr. Paul was one of only six Republicans to vote against the Iraqi war authorization, less well known is that he was one of only six incumbent Republican Congressmen to support Ronald Reagan over Ford in 1976. In fact, Dr. Paul led the Texas delegation for Reagan to the nominating convention.







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« Reply #172 on: June 07, 2007, 08:06:52 PM »
Ron Paul - 5 Million Dollar Man?

"observers close to the campaign are revealing – with some astonishment – that donations to the campaign in recent weeks have pushed the total up to perhaps $4 or $5 million."

still not as much as the frontrunners, but he's getting closer and closer...  :D

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« Reply #173 on: June 07, 2007, 09:42:23 PM »
holy crap, considering that the last report I'd seen was 700k, that's astonishing (or just a really old report).

That's good news and certainly a step in the right direction.

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« Reply #174 on: June 07, 2007, 10:19:20 PM »
it sure is, Sik...

by the way, earlier I promised some vid of the rally before and after the debate...  here ya go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNn0B57cGgw  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi3JnWjqO44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuWE2BJW9UE

These look like fringe-types to you?  They look like red-blooded Americans to me...
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« Reply #175 on: June 08, 2007, 03:57:23 PM »
Nevertheless there are more fringe flakes if only because of the relatively small number of Paul supporters.  They don't need to be many to make a mark, as trolls and 'hardcore' game fans do.  It's too bad they are as zealous as regular folks..  They aren't good news for Paul if they are the first impression people unfamiliar with Paul get, like that youtube vid 'Ron Paul vs. Digg.com'.  Crackpot stuff.

The Daily Show interview was really uneventful.  I wouldn't try and predict what Colbert will do, but I doubt his interview will be any better.

BSD, do you have a video of the straw poll CNN pulled from their live coverage of the debate?  Was it an internet vote too, or something else?
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« Reply #176 on: June 08, 2007, 07:39:40 PM »
Didn't bother reading this thread on the pansy. It just took about two seconds of hearing his "lets just be nice and use our words" BS to decide that fella's out.

He sounded like a woman for crying out loud.
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« Reply #177 on: June 08, 2007, 08:32:02 PM »
:lol  Those founding fathers and their ghey get-ups, foppish 'constitutional' nonsense!  They ought to have had real manly politicos like today's teaching them proper flip-flopin and showboating.
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« Reply #178 on: June 09, 2007, 10:07:28 AM »
so far the polls have the mormon making the most headway..  He is the big winner in the debates helping his cause the most.

I will vote for the libertarian pretending to be a republican unless something unusual happens but..   I think that if the guy won the primaries he could win the whole thing against someone as bad as billary or osamabama.

That being said..  I will probly not have a good choice again and simply have to vote in the best way I can to help keep the democrat out.

I know it is crushing to get your hopes up and to fight so hard but..  rp doesn't have a chance.    Just like kinky didn't have a chance and just like rpm invested so much into him.

difference of course is that rp would be good for the country and kinky would have been very very bad.... a very small difference when it comes to getting elected tho.

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« Reply #179 on: June 09, 2007, 11:42:34 AM »
RP should see he's got nothing to lose, and deconstruct as much of the other candidates' BS politics on TV as he can, for everyone to see.
With some luck he'll have gained influence when it's all said and done.  He'll be a bit old to run in 2012.
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