Author Topic: Who is Ron Paul? (Read 15220 times)

moot · « **Reply #360 on:** December 23, 2007, 12:43:06 PM »

They ripped the music off Star Wars or something... Looks like a good interview, not much fluff at all.

Thanks BSD.

edit- That guy's really on a mission.. The same sort of biased and disingenuous insinuation as Giuliani's crowd pleaser reply to Paul's blowback comment way back in that debate.
The guy's not even playing fair.. He's more interested in having the last word over RP than finding out the truth about RP's intentions. Quoting (or misquoting) from campaign soundbites that are 10 years old... is someone looking for closet skeletons or what?

You know you're dealing with a scumbag when he's more intent on discussing hypothetical dirty laundry than actualy debating issues...

texasmom · « **Reply #361 on:** December 23, 2007, 12:45:21 PM »

Geez, that picture is disturbing.

moot · « **Reply #362 on:** December 23, 2007, 01:22:13 PM »

It's impressive how he just argues things out transparently without paying much attention to the troll baits, when the guy in front of him is trying to twist and spin things Paul says out of their intended meaning.

Equally impressive is the two or three flat out misquotes on national TV from the anchor. Truth took a back seat to shock and awe when they planned that show...

bsdaddict · « **Reply #363 on:** December 23, 2007, 01:30:14 PM »

You're welcome, moot! It mosdef is impressive how RP handles himself. That's one of the things that's winning people over. He just doesn't come across as a politician. He's more of a statesman, and people want that.

Edit: I think he scored a lot of southern votes with his comments on the Civil War.

Toad · « **Reply #364 on:** December 23, 2007, 07:21:16 PM »

I think Paul needs to focus his message. I watched MTP this morning and while I understood what he was saying and where he was coming from, I think others that no nothing of his platform would not have gotten the real message.

He needs to find a way to explain in just a few words that the scary things that Russert threw out (ie: end of Medicare or public schools) are really just about getting back to a Constitutional government. The fact that he thinks the FEDS have no business in doing such things DOES NOT mean that the STATES cannot devise their own programs. In fact, it means the STATES should control any such programs.

He needs to get these ideas out clearly and quickly.

Overall, I don't think he presented well on MTP. Yah, those people that already know/understand his politics got it but those who know nothing about him probably thought he was way out there.

Understand that I support his positions and his candidacy; I just don't think he took excellent advantage of his bully pulpit time on MTP.

moot · « **Reply #365 on:** December 24, 2007, 12:28:44 AM »

I thought so too. A particularily well written email might find its way to his attention..

rpm · « **Reply #366 on:** December 24, 2007, 12:47:00 AM »

John McLaughlin named him Most Carismatic Person of 2007 on his show today. Paul is starting to get some mainstream attention. I'll be interested in watching his results in the first few primaries.

lazs2 · « **Reply #367 on:** December 24, 2007, 10:08:05 AM »

I hate to even let myself think that there is a possiblity that Americans (or any people) would ever accept and embrace the constitution and individual freedom.

The dissapointment when they reject it like a monster in the closet is just too much.

I know that when they see him taking away... realize that he wants to take away their own personal socialistic program they will call for having him burned at the stake.

lazs

AKIron · « **Reply #368 on:** December 24, 2007, 10:14:07 AM »

Americans aren't ready for Ron Paul. If Hillary wins this election we'll all likely feel a more tangilble impact from loss of our liberty. That might make us ready for Ron Paul or someone like him in 2012. If the Mayan calendar don't get us that is.

Kanth · « **Reply #369 on:** December 24, 2007, 11:09:58 AM »

He has mainstream attention. Just not by the media. That's why they have to call it 'grass roots'. That's when the people are for someone and yet the media refuse to be unbiased enough to show it.

The uncertainty is how well will he be able to get his message out without their support. So far he's been doing really well as the people who don't have the power to broadcast via television are doing it with signs and websites.

Thank god for the internet because otherwise how'd we get any information on candidates that we actually agree with who aren't popular with the media?

I wish they'd take the hint from their failed Iraq movies and their failed mass consumer force fed views on 'war for oil' and get back to entertainment or unbiased news.

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Originally posted by rpm
John McLaughlin named him Most Carismatic Person of 2007 on his show today. Paul is starting to get some mainstream attention. I'll be interested in watching his results in the first few primaries.

bj229r · « **Reply #370 on:** December 24, 2007, 11:17:08 AM »

I'd be interested to see if he runs as independent in general election, does he pull more votes from Dems or Gop

AKIron · « **Reply #371 on:** December 24, 2007, 11:28:50 AM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
I'd be interested to see if he runs as independent in general election, does he pull more votes from Dems or Gop

If he truly cares about liberty as much as he claims, he won't go that route. The majority of votes he'd pull would be from the party of which he is currently running. 1992 all over again.

Chairboy · « **Reply #372 on:** December 24, 2007, 11:30:28 AM »

Or 2000 all over again.

lazs2 · « **Reply #373 on:** December 25, 2007, 10:29:37 AM »

I hope he keeps his word and does not run as an independent (read, shill for hillary).

I think that if he gets a large... very very large percent of the republican nomination and... a lot of "independents and democrats" switch to republican to vote in the primaries...

I think that will be an extremely good thing. it will be almost as good as winning and it will send a real message.

The politicians from now on will have to have more of a libertarian/individualist/constitutional/freedom/antiscocialism message in the future in order to get votes.

win or lose.. he just might change things.. and for the better.

oops.. there I go.. setting myself up for dissapointment again.. you would think I would know better by now.

lazs

bj229r · « **Reply #374 on:** December 25, 2007, 10:36:09 AM »

Yah but if Dems vote for him in the promaries, they prolly still gonna vote for the shrew in the general, and Gop gets a candidate the base has serious issues with, thus, President Shrew