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Offline hubsonfire

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« Reply #90 on: March 23, 2007, 12:29:24 AM »
Is the only thing separating a tank with an MG mounted, and a tank without it, the post and gun? Is the turret on the Firefly specific to that tank, and are the hatches and related components specific to this turret?
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« Reply #91 on: March 23, 2007, 12:34:06 AM »
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Any info on where that image was taken Widewing?


No, there was no info with the image...

There's a museum Firefly...



My regards,

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« Reply #92 on: March 23, 2007, 12:41:52 AM »
Not sure if thats a Firefly, but no .50 on top.



EDIT- NM, thats an Easy Eight. I just seem to keep getting dragged into that bad-boy. :)
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« Reply #93 on: March 23, 2007, 12:44:36 AM »
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Looked through all my stuff and not a single pic of Sherman Firefly's with MGs on top.  

I think part of the issue was the additional hatch that was put on the Firefly, where there was not a hatch on the standard Sherman at the time.  

Someone posted a shot of a supposed Firefly during Goodwood, but I've seen a number of photos of Shermans used by the Brits, Canadians and Poles that had a storage bin in the same place the extention was for the Firefly and I believe that's what the photo shows, not a Firefly.

If it was up to me, I'd leave the 50 off the Sherman Firefly.

I'm also quite thankful that Pyro and company chose the Firefly to give it a chance against the Tiger etc instead of going with the standard short  barrel 75 Sherman.


     It's obvious to me that the Firefly was capable of mounting a 50 cal AAA
mg..so why not let it?  For you historo-realism nazis out there...it was not
standard practice for fighter bombers to carry 1,000 lb bombs either.  You
can make some adjustments for gameplay.
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« Reply #94 on: March 23, 2007, 12:47:31 AM »
I know I've seen that tank in another series of pictures, but there's a detail in there I've missed before. The panels on the front of the tank, are those modifications to the hull, or just armor plates welded on to protect the crew? In other photos, someone pointed out the "ramps", as they appear, being unique to Firefly's, but here it just looks like a hasty field mod. Was this a standard thing for Firefly hulls, or was this prevalent among other Shermans as well?

You make me giggle, Phan. I'm on the same campaign myself.
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« Reply #95 on: March 23, 2007, 12:52:51 AM »


Looks pretty standard to me. I know the E8 and other ones didn't have that.
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« Reply #96 on: March 23, 2007, 01:54:05 AM »
I notice that the Firefly images from AH:


Lack the plate on the side of the photos of Fireflies:



The side plate in the gmae's Firefly is flat whereas the sides of the Fireflies in the photos have a raised rectangle of armor on them.
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« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2007, 08:01:51 AM »
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Originally posted by Widewing
I've seen several Firefly Vc types with .50 cal BMG mounted on the turrets.

Here's one...



My regards,

Widewing



Well there is the .50 sitting on the firefly.
Keep it.



Bronk

Edit: And judging by the funny helmets *snicker* , those are most definitely Brits. :D
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« Reply #98 on: March 23, 2007, 08:28:11 AM »
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Actually, it was piece no. c4047 from the m2 50cal jacket assembly that makes it look like it does.


I'm not sure I've ever seen a ground-mounted, jacketed M2 used in the field -- from WW2 photos until I had one sitting in front of me on an M113 :)

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« Reply #99 on: March 23, 2007, 09:23:52 AM »
An oversight caused the aircraft M2 to get put on there instead of the M2HB.
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« Reply #100 on: March 23, 2007, 09:55:45 AM »
Sherman Firefly

General characteristics
 
Crew 4 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver)
Length 19 ft 4 in, 5.89 m
Width 9 ft, 2.75 m
Height 8 ft 7 in, 2.62 m
Weight 33 tonnes

Armour and armament

Armour 89 mm
Main armament OQF 17 pdr (76 mm) gun
Secondary armament .50 Browning M2 machine gun (12.7 mm)
.30 Browning M1919 machine gun (7.62 mm)

Mobility

Power plant Chrysler Multibank (5 x inline-6) gasoline
425 hp ( kW)
Suspension coil spring
Road speed 25 mph (40 km/h)
Power/weight hp/tonne
Range 120 miles (193 km)

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« Reply #101 on: March 23, 2007, 10:36:59 AM »
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Originally posted by Airscrew



 


notice the extensions on the tracks.

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« Reply #102 on: March 23, 2007, 12:02:42 PM »
Widewing cool find on that photo, brit shermans using the 50 were exceedingly rare.
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« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2007, 12:26:58 PM »
WHOA! WAIT A SECOND.

I know something was up. Thats not a WW2 British vehicle - its a post war Firefly acquired  by Argentina.

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Originally posted by Widewing
I've seen several Firefly Vc types with .50 cal BMG mounted on the turrets.

Here's one...



My regards,

Widewing


More pics:

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Offline Guppy35

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« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2007, 12:32:15 PM »
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Originally posted by Rino
It's obvious to me that the Firefly was capable of mounting a 50 cal AAA
mg..so why not let it?  For you historo-realism nazis out there...it was not
standard practice for fighter bombers to carry 1,000 lb bombs either.  You
can make some adjustments for gameplay.




Hey Pyro asked if it was standard practice or something to that effect.  Historo-realism nazi indeed! :)
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