New plane election

[Xasthur]

Originally posted by Ball

Jet battles! **** yes

[Fencer51]

Originally posted by straffo
Hahem ... Stuka pilot is far from reliable !

What?  You don't trust an unrepentant Nazi?

Pryo, thanks for your list that's what I was talking about.

I have a solution for you.  Add the Brewster and 2 others.  There would be no need for multiple variants on the Brewster and they do deserve it but it would be a shame to waste one the two slots on it.  Farm it out to the community as a test.

Looks like I will vote for the P-39 and the Ki-43, although the Betty and the Pe-2 are desperately needed for the plane set.

[-aper-]

Some alternative list:

Fiat Cr32
MC.200

He-51
Bf-109B

I-15
I-16

Gloster Gladiator

PZL-P11C

Ki-27

Avia B.534

Ms.406

Fokker D.XXI

Brewster

+

Pre-early War Arena

== lots of fun

[VVV]

Me-410U-2 and U-4
U-2 has 2x 20mm with 250 rounds each
U-4 has 1x 50mm BK5 cannon with 21 rounds
Maximum speed- 388mph

[Oldman731]

From the selfish AvA perspective:

P-39, of course, it fits into nearly all setups.

I wish there were some Japanese fighter from 1943 that we could put in, but the fact is that the Tony and Zeke were really all they had.  The Oscar would only be a Zeke-in-other-clothing; in early war it would eat up Wildcats and P-40s, for the rest of the war it would be dog meat.  I think we now have two good late-war fighters for the Japanese (and AH has more than enough 1945 planes anyway).  Desperately need the Betty, but I understand that this vote is for fighters.

The Russians could use a mid-war fighter - currently they're pretty much stuck with American rides (P-40 and the upcoming P-39) and a ground attack plane (9T).  But I'd rather see the Finns' version of the Buffalo here, so that we can stop using the FM2 as a substitute and dump the Hurri IIC.

What I'd REALLY like to see, though, is the I-16, but it would need some sort of match on the other side, and then we're into Spanish Civil War times (CR-42, anyone?).

- oldman

[Ghosth]

First off IMO we need everything on the list, and we needed it last year. That being said.

In order to be done.

P-39 at least 2 variants ie US & Soviet markings.

Pe-2 Russian plane set has been lacking a bomber forever.

Ki-43, Ki-44, Ki-45 in that order, Japanese plane set needs some beefing.

After that the Yak, the HE-111, and B25.

When thats all done then clean up the list.
We'll have dozens more ready to chose from by the time these are ready.

[Gianlupo]

Originally posted by EagleDNY
the G.55 would be interesting to try out against the C.205 and the 109G2/G6.

C.205 and 109??? Try it agaisnt bombers, and you'll see! Vote for it, it's great!

Aper, Oldman, I'd like to see CR.42 (even 32 ) or C.200, but, as you noted, those would be more fitting for AvA, as most of the italian planes... if the new airframe has to be something that can fly in MAs and CT, well, it should be a later design, such as the G.55... it's perfect, vote for it!

[EagleDNY]

The guns loadout is the same as a 109G6 with gondolas - and the engine power is about the same.  I'd expect better manueverability and hi-alt performance with those wings, and it would be a good buff killer.  

I'd take it up in a second, but I'm not sure it would get as much usage in the arenas as the P-39 would.  I'd also like to try out the 37mm vs vehicles (and low flying buffs  )

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by streakeagle
While some of the planes on that list are sorely needed to round out the planeset, I think one of the most interesting choices didn't even make the list:
P-61 Black Widow

Agreed. It has in the past been a commonly requested plane.

Would also like to see it at least included in the list

here is a link with info and charts taken directly from the original flight manual which includes as well as other things cockpit layouts. Cones of fire,angles of armor protection. ETC

As well as a training video

P61 Manual

For those that would argue about the use of radar and lack of night

"The Black Widow night fighter used its on-board radar only to plot intercept courses when pursuing enemy aircraft. Once having used closed with his target, the pilot of the Black Widow sighted his prey by eye and used a conventional optical gunsight to fire his guns at the enemy"

SOURCE

Well this is the same way radar is used in game now. On planes that didnt have radar
So the "lack of night" in reality and given the way radar is already used in game is not a valid arguement against it.



If I had to narrow it downt o a few my list in order of prefrence would be

P61
A New Jap or russian plane
The A26
Buffalo.

Im not including the 39 not because I dont like it. But because I think we already have enough of that style bird.
For a new addon I'd like to see something truely new and different then what we already have

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Pyro

B-25 – Cool plane, one of my favorites as a kid and another sentimental favorite for various reasons.  Good for several variants and who wouldn’t want to fly a plane that has a 75mm cannon and 14 .50s?

 

Hold on a sec. If your not joking about this. I may have to modify my vote.


Bronk

[Whisky58]

Yak 3.

Russkies are seriously under-represented in this game.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Pyro
My synopsis IMHO.


Brewster Buffalo – My sentimental choice to win.  For nearly 12 years, Finns have asked me for this.  Their passion for this plane is contagious.  I’ve wanted to give them one ever since I read Double Fighter Knight about 10 years ago.  That really gave me an appreciation of the FAF and the sturdiness of Finns in general.  Of course, now that I’ve said it’s my sentimental favorite, if it happens to win it will provoke more conspiracy theories than Patrick Ewing going to the Knicks in the first NBA draft lottery.


Japanese fighter - Ki 44, J2M, Ki 45, or Ki 43 – There’s fun to be had here that most people don’t realize.  I have to group them together so as not to split the votes for people just wanting to see more Japanese planes but each of these are interesting in their own right.

A-26 -  Honestly, this plane will end up as a light perk but more things to spend bomber perks on are needed.  Helluva plane that would completely upstage every other medium bomber in the game.

I'd be willing to forgo all my other requests including my much beloved 61 if you narrowed it down to these three.

For reasons you have here given

[Martyn]

As a Brit I was hoping for the Beaufighter, but to be fair I do feel the Russians are under represented. I vote for: -

   P-39 - US and Russian versions
   Pe-2 or Tu-2

However, the early war and BOB could be filled out too - with: -

   He 111
   (Do 217?)

Hint: If you add streams of He-111s it'd make a good BOB scenario.

[Deth7]

B-25/P-39














Followed shortly  the Korean Arena        

[Memen31]

ill vote a26 and b25